Just curious

[zombeer]

Did the stocks and snail drums generally see a lot of service use or were they just experimental/fun attachments that never really caught on?

[Ron Wood]

They were fully functional and effective accessories and saw considerable use. They saw extensive service in the later war years as assault unit weapons.

[lugerholsterrepair]

fun attachments that never really caught on? I have studied WW1 extensively most of my life and have to agree with Herr Wood.

fun attachments were a bottle of wine and a Frauline.

[zombeer]

Ok, thanks guys. I was just curious based on their rarity nowadays.

There's all kinds of "tactical" nonsense that gets thrown on the AR platform nowadays. Were there any p08 developments that never quite took off?

[DavidJayUden]

Erma .22 Lugers and the Stainless steel American Eagle Lugers both come to mind. Seems like there was a full auto prototype mentioned somewhere along the line.
dju

[Ron Wood]

A full-auto function for the Luger never took off because a standard magazine would be emptied in well under a second and a drum magazine in just a little over two seconds. It was uncontrollable and not even the most dextrous soldier could exercise a trigger pull that didn't empty the magazine.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by zombeer

Were there any p08 developments that never quite took off?

The .45 caliber Luger was a development that never caught on. There just was never enough interest in it.

[lugerholsterrepair]

The .45 caliber Luger was a development that never caught on. There just was never enough interest in it.

There is now! Wish I had one...

[Jack Lawman]

Radium night sights for the luger never caught on:

http://www.lugerlp08.com/sudicatis.htm

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...illery-experts

Jack

[cirelaw]

Does anyone express a warning regarding repos both drums and especially loaders in todays' market? ~~~Eric

[lugerholsterrepair]

Eric..WARNING? Can you be more specific? I have here the Numrich Arms repro drum and loader. Both are serviceable..and highly recognizable as reproductions.
Jerry

[cirelaw]

I'm not referring to Numrich Arms but private sales such as Ebay where even a seller might be unaware as to it authenticity!!!

[lugerholsterrepair]

Eric..There is a fake loader on eBay right now..$449 I think? One just has to know the small differences I guess.

[cirelaw]

My solution was George Anderson. My Italian adopted Italian Granny used to say, "Keep it in the Family"!

[alvin]

Long barrel Luger without stock attached must be very awkward to aim and shoot, especially considering user shooting pistols single hand in the past.

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by alvin

Long barrel Luger without stock attached must be very awkward to aim and shoot, especially considering user shooting pistols single hand in the past.

Long barreled handguns were around long before the Luger. The US Cavalry Colt had a 7-1/2 inch barrel, didn't seem to bother the horse soldiers much.

[alvin]

I am thinking the origin of attaching a stock to a handgun. When did it start? Was it a invention in 19th century, people started attaching stock to some large frame revolvers to increase shooting stability, and later the idea was applied on some large size self-loading pistols?

Once I saw a guy shooting a newly made 8" barrel stainless steel revolver in range. Not sure it's modified by him or it's factory configuration, the revolver had a long optical scope attached on the top. Of course, it bangs, but I wondered the effectiveness of that long barrel and scope on the revolver. The revolver leaks gas -- the longer barrel does not help much on increasing bullet speed. The DA trigger pull is heavy -- the unstable scope does not help much on aiming, it's just decoration.

Of course, that revolver cannot attach a stock due to U.S. gun law. Otherwise, at least the scope on that revolver could be helpful.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Alvin, I have seen many photo's of flint lock single shots with attachable stocks.

I shoot the 8" Artillery Luger frequently with no stock. I agree with Ron..not a big problem if you have a strong arm/wrist.

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

The .45 caliber Luger was a development that never caught on. There just was never enough interest in it.

There is now! Wish I had one...

The 9mm round courts the upper limits of the system's mechanical and strength capabilities. The .45 ACP would demand even more from the gun's action. I think any of us would be interested in owning one in .45, but those produced nowadays--either by joining two halves+ of donor guns, or from scratch--are pretty pricey. Our pal Eugene G., the Lugerman, is on track to create a few, but that hasn't been mentioned in a year or more. Obviously, his rendition would need to account for the extra power/stresses of the .45 round, if/when it arrives.

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by alvin

Once I saw a guy shooting a newly made 8" barrel stainless steel revolver in range. Not sure it's modified by him or it's factory configuration, the revolver had a long optical scope attached on the top. Of course, it bangs, but I wondered the effectiveness of that long barrel and scope on the revolver. The revolver leaks gas -- the longer barrel does not help much on increasing bullet speed. The DA trigger pull is heavy -- the unstable scope does not help much on aiming, it's just decoration.

S&W currently produces long barrel revolvers(8 in. and longer) in large bore centerfire calibers. They are used by many in place of rifles in large game (deer, hogs, elk, etc.) hunting. They are very successful in their endeavors with these weapons.

The long bbl. definitely increases velocity and bullet stabilization. The Scopes are extremely effective at 100 yards and longer.