wooden bottom mag question.

beamersquared · 10-24-2002, 06:09 PM

My new Luger is a shooter, but it has a very nice WW1 mag in very good condition. (no dents,missing nickle and nice finish)

My question is: Should wooden bottom mags be used in "Shooter" guns or should they be conserved for colectors.

Also can any one identify the mark on the bottom of my mag and give me a little information about it. Also value.

Sorry my pictures are crappy. I spent way to much money on guns and not enough on digital cameras!!!

The mark looks like a crown over a script letter with a dash mark under the letter.

Thanks to all the forum for your help and support.

Beamersquared

-Even a fool can be a wiseman, IF, He knows when to keep his mouth shut-

Edward Tinker · 10-24-2002, 06:48 PM

If it is an original wood magazine, you may want to let it rest.

Also, many times the older magazines don't work as well.

After a while you pick up a magazine here and there and you'll have several that work.

The new Mec-Gar ones work really well. [img]smile.gif[/img]

beamersquared · 10-24-2002, 06:54 PM

Mr. Tinker

Sorry. I posted my picture by accident. (I have re-edited and added text.)

Thanks

Beamersquared

Edward Tinker · 10-24-2002, 07:08 PM

[img]biggrin.gif[/img] Ed, Mr Tinker was my Grandfather...Heh, heh, We just crossed the digital path and both were trying to fix things.

I just didn't let you get "done".

Ed

beamersquared · 10-24-2002, 07:24 PM

Thanks Ed

Im still trying to learn how every thing works in the forum.

jerry
Beamersquared

Doubs · 10-24-2002, 11:40 PM

The Crown over a Gothic letter mark on your magazine bottom indicates it was issued with an Erfurt pistol as DWM didn't mark their mags with an inspection stamp. However, it should have the serial number and suffix letter (if any) stamped across the short axis of the bottom as all Erfurt mags are supposed to be so marked. I have an Erfurt pistol with a mag marked with the C/letter and no serial number but I'd never claim it to be original and correct. It's too easy to fake and according to Still's "Imperial Lugers", page 81, all Erfurt mags include the full serial number.

There's also the possibility that your mag originally had a serial number that was removed for whatever reason. Possibly during a post-WW1 rework or re-issue with another pistol. It's really impossible to say without an examination and may not be possible then.

TheRomanhistorian · 11-25-2002, 03:01 AM

I put my WWI mag away for rest, it looks nice sitting there. But I must confess I've used it to unload at leats 100 rounds before my repro mag came from Sarco...have to say the WWI mag is more impressive with the wood bottom and shiny metal. The black plastic bottom of the repro just doesn't quite do the gun justice.

Lugerdoc · 11-26-2002, 07:03 AM

Michael, It is also possible that your WW1 Imperial inspected (Erfurt) mag is an armour's spare that was never numbered to a PO8. I've owned several of these over the years, but with the wear on your bottom, it's hard to tell for sure. Tom H.

JohnF · 12-10-2002, 06:27 PM

It occurred to me that all of us must see mags for sale at the various shows and, working together, we could all improve the value of our collections by creating a list of the numbered spare mags that we have. It could be that other members have the pistol to which these mags originally belonged. For example, I bought three wooden bottom mags at the weekend - serial numbers 4625, 6155, 9051. The last of these has a proof mark and the other two have a cross on them - are they Swiss?
Do the forum members think that this is feasible or worthwhile?

Heinz · 12-10-2002, 07:44 PM

The "cross" is probably a plus sign, the Imperial military marking for the extra magazine.

10-24-2002, 06:09 PM	#1
beamersquared User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wooden bottom mag question. My new Luger is a shooter, but it has a very nice WW1 mag in very good condition. (no dents,missing nickle and nice finish) My question is: Should wooden bottom mags be used in "Shooter" guns or should they be conserved for colectors. Also can any one identify the mark on the bottom of my mag and give me a little information about it. Also value. Sorry my pictures are crappy. I spent way to much money on guns and not enough on digital cameras!!! The mark looks like a crown over a script letter with a dash mark under the letter. Thanks to all the forum for your help and support. Beamersquared -Even a fool can be a wiseman, IF, He knows when to keep his mouth shut-

10-24-2002, 06:48 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	If it is an original wood magazine, you may want to let it rest. Also, many times the older magazines don't work as well. After a while you pick up a magazine here and there and you'll have several that work. The new Mec-Gar ones work really well. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-24-2002, 07:08 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	[img]biggrin.gif[/img] Ed, Mr Tinker was my Grandfather...Heh, heh, We just crossed the digital path and both were trying to fix things. I just didn't let you get "done". Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-25-2002, 03:01 AM	#7
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	I put my WWI mag away for rest, it looks nice sitting there. But I must confess I've used it to unload at leats 100 rounds before my repro mag came from Sarco...have to say the WWI mag is more impressive with the wood bottom and shiny metal. The black plastic bottom of the repro just doesn't quite do the gun justice. __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

11-26-2002, 07:03 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Michael, It is also possible that your WW1 Imperial inspected (Erfurt) mag is an armour's spare that was never numbered to a PO8. I've owned several of these over the years, but with the wear on your bottom, it's hard to tell for sure. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-24-2002, 06:54 PM	#3
beamersquared User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr. Tinker Sorry. I posted my picture by accident. (I have re-edited and added text.) Thanks Beamersquared

10-24-2002, 07:24 PM	#5
beamersquared User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed Im still trying to learn how every thing works in the forum. jerry Beamersquared

10-24-2002, 11:40 PM	#6
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,673 Thanks: 773 Thanked 1,619 Times in 528 Posts	The Crown over a Gothic letter mark on your magazine bottom indicates it was issued with an Erfurt pistol as DWM didn't mark their mags with an inspection stamp. However, it should have the serial number and suffix letter (if any) stamped across the short axis of the bottom as all Erfurt mags are supposed to be so marked. I have an Erfurt pistol with a mag marked with the C/letter and no serial number but I'd never claim it to be original and correct. It's too easy to fake and according to Still's "Imperial Lugers", page 81, all Erfurt mags include the full serial number. There's also the possibility that your mag originally had a serial number that was removed for whatever reason. Possibly during a post-WW1 rework or re-issue with another pistol. It's really impossible to say without an examination and may not be possible then.

12-10-2002, 06:27 PM	#9
JohnF User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It occurred to me that all of us must see mags for sale at the various shows and, working together, we could all improve the value of our collections by creating a list of the numbered spare mags that we have. It could be that other members have the pistol to which these mags originally belonged. For example, I bought three wooden bottom mags at the weekend - serial numbers 4625, 6155, 9051. The last of these has a proof mark and the other two have a cross on them - are they Swiss? Do the forum members think that this is feasible or worthwhile?

12-10-2002, 07:44 PM	#10
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	The "cross" is probably a plus sign, the Imperial military marking for the extra magazine.