Luger Frame size

A.Mifsin · 01-02-2011, 06:13 AM

I have read that the DWM Luger Frame is 129mm long and that of the Mauser produced frames is 300mm long, 1mm longer. The 129mm Frame size, thus it applies to Erfurt andf Simsons frames also?
Alf.

John Sabato · 01-03-2011, 10:28 AM

Alf,

Please check your math or at least your numbers. 129mm and 300mm are more than 1mm apart...

Also remember that early DWM frames were longer than the later DWM frames for the P.08

sheepherder · 01-03-2011, 11:29 AM

I'm a little confused here, too...

Where is this extra length in the early frames???

I've read that the barrel shank (part with the thread) was ~.100" longer...under 1/8"...

My S/42 frame is ~130mm long...[has nothing to do with this discussion; just wondering where the "long" frames have the extra length]...

Norme · 01-03-2011, 11:47 AM

Hi Rich, The early "long frame" guns were longer at the front of the frame - in the photos you can see that the curved area at the lower front of the frame on the early gun has a larger radius than on the late DWM frame. The Mauser and Krieghoff frames were 1mm longer at the rear. Regards, Norm.

A.Mifsin · 01-03-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Alf,

Please check your math or at least your numbers. 129mm and 300mm are more than 1mm apart...

Also remember that early DWM frames were longer than the later DWM frames for the P.08

Point taken, yes I was suppose to write 130mm.

Alf.

sheepherder · 01-03-2011, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Rich, The early "long frame" guns were longer at the front of the frame - in the photos you can see that the curved area at the lower front of the frame on the early gun has a larger radius than on the late DWM frame. The Mauser and Krieghof frames were 1mm longer at the rear. Regards, Norm.

Thanks, Norm! I had read in Ron's sticky on Frame Variations that the barrel shank/thread was 1mm longer (~.039"/.040")...and the corresponding part of the receiver front...that's your area ahead of the takedown lever...

...But where is the 1mm longer area at the rear of the frame of Mauser/Krieghoff frames??? At the very rear of the "ears"??? You're not counting the Mauser "hump", are you???

A.Mifsin · 01-03-2011, 02:17 PM

" ...But where is the 1mm longer area at the rear of the frame of Mauser/Krieghoff frames??? At the very rear of the "ears"??? You're not counting the Mauser "hump", are you??? "

Yes, that is the 1mm extra in the Mauser frame.
Alf.

Norme · 01-03-2011, 02:27 PM

Here you go, Rich. The Krieghoff frame is 1mm thicker at the back, the Mauser is the same, except the lower portion has been machined back, leaving the "hump". Regards, Norm

01-02-2011, 06:13 AM	#1
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Luger Frame size I have read that the DWM Luger Frame is 129mm long and that of the Mauser produced frames is 300mm long, 1mm longer. The 129mm Frame size, thus it applies to Erfurt andf Simsons frames also? Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

01-03-2011, 10:28 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Alf, Please check your math or at least your numbers. 129mm and 300mm are more than 1mm apart... Also remember that early DWM frames were longer than the later DWM frames for the P.08 __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,441 Times in 2,329 Posts	I'm a little confused here, too... Where is this extra length in the early frames??? I've read that the barrel shank (part with the thread) was ~.100" longer...under 1/8"... My S/42 frame is ~130mm long...[has nothing to do with this discussion; just wondering where the "long" frames have the extra length]... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-03-2011, 11:47 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Rich, The early "long frame" guns were longer at the front of the frame - in the photos you can see that the curved area at the lower front of the frame on the early gun has a larger radius than on the late DWM frame. The Mauser and Krieghoff frames were 1mm longer at the rear. Regards, Norm. Attached Thumbnails

01-03-2011, 02:17 PM	#7
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	" ...But where is the 1mm longer area at the rear of the frame of Mauser/Krieghoff frames??? At the very rear of the "ears"??? You're not counting the Mauser "hump", are you??? " Yes, that is the 1mm extra in the Mauser frame. Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

01-03-2011, 02:27 PM	#8
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Here you go, Rich. The Krieghoff frame is 1mm thicker at the back, the Mauser is the same, except the lower portion has been machined back, leaving the "hump". Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Norme; 01-03-2011 at 03:17 PM. Reason: Spelling!