repo luger stock

dru86 · 10-12-2011, 10:12 AM

I did a search but couldn't find anything, what's involved in getting the aftermarket luger stocks to fit on a artillery luger? From my quick measurements it looks like the wider bit of the slot in the iron fitting needs to be made a little wider, is this normally what doesn't fit?

John Sabato · 10-12-2011, 10:21 AM

It can either be that, or the thickness of the iron may have to be modified to fit the goorve of the particular Luger... Welcome to the Lugerforum!

Kitkat041836 · 10-12-2011, 11:28 AM

I can fit them,the hardest one to fit is the CMR Stock iron.It just
takes a lot of time and a lot of emery paper.
Thanks George

Ron Wood · 10-12-2011, 11:29 AM

Usually the stock lug on the Luger "bottoms out" in the groove of the stock iron, so the groove needs to be a tad deeper. I use long handled file with a curved cutting surface called a "riffler" to remove the small amount of metal needed to make the stock fit. I go slowly taking a little at a time and checking the fit frequently. It is a good idea to stop when you can get a tight attachment that requires a bit of wiggling to get the stock on. It will loosen up on its own over time, particularly with repro stocks that tend to have a bit softer metal in the iron than originals.

Vlim · 10-12-2011, 01:50 PM

I found that certain real stocks will not fit later P08 pistols also, and that repro stocks will fit one like a glove and will not go on another frame either.

So both with real stocks and with aftermarket stocks it is a matter of finding a correct match.
Makes one think the stocks were numbered for a reason

lugerholsterrepair · 10-12-2011, 02:00 PM

Gerben is absolutely correct..There is such a wide variation in pistol stock lugs that on 4" pistols it might be almost impossible to get any stock to fit. You have a better chance with the Artillery Pistols as they were actually intended to use a stock.

You could get lucky and find one that fits but like George says..you could spend many vexing hours fitting it too.

SIGP2101 · 10-13-2011, 01:15 PM

I have a reproduction stock that become too lose after first couple of rounds. My problem is opposite, how to make it tight again and how to harden repro - iron properly? It looks like it was made out of cast and then finished of by machining. Quality of the metal used is in question.

calibrator · 10-13-2011, 05:30 PM

I cut a strip from a business card as wide as the tang of the pistol and longer than the groove in the iron. I then put it in the iron with a small bit folded over as a tab to hold on to. I then insert the tang into the iron and rip off the tab after twisting the lock. This will usually tighten up a loose stock iron nicely and is not noticable.

dru86 · 10-13-2011, 10:45 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I got the stock to fit, it took about an hour of filing various bits. I actually had some riffler files given to my by my grandfather but hand never used them until now (I didn't even know they're called "rifflers"). It was a really tight finish once i was done but has loosen up a little now that I've taken it on and off a few times. They certainly use a soft iron in them.

10-12-2011, 10:12 AM	#1
dru86 New User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	repo luger stock I did a search but couldn't find anything, what's involved in getting the aftermarket luger stocks to fit on a artillery luger? From my quick measurements it looks like the wider bit of the slot in the iron fitting needs to be made a little wider, is this normally what doesn't fit?

10-12-2011, 10:21 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	It can either be that, or the thickness of the iron may have to be modified to fit the goorve of the particular Luger... Welcome to the Lugerforum! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-12-2011, 11:29 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,175 Times in 1,702 Posts	Usually the stock lug on the Luger "bottoms out" in the groove of the stock iron, so the groove needs to be a tad deeper. I use long handled file with a curved cutting surface called a "riffler" to remove the small amount of metal needed to make the stock fit. I go slowly taking a little at a time and checking the fit frequently. It is a good idea to stop when you can get a tight attachment that requires a bit of wiggling to get the stock on. It will loosen up on its own over time, particularly with repro stocks that tend to have a bit softer metal in the iron than originals. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-12-2011, 01:50 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	I found that certain real stocks will not fit later P08 pistols also, and that repro stocks will fit one like a glove and will not go on another frame either. So both with real stocks and with aftermarket stocks it is a matter of finding a correct match. Makes one think the stocks were numbered for a reason Attached Thumbnails

10-12-2011, 02:00 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,929 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Gerben is absolutely correct..There is such a wide variation in pistol stock lugs that on 4" pistols it might be almost impossible to get any stock to fit. You have a better chance with the Artillery Pistols as they were actually intended to use a stock. You could get lucky and find one that fits but like George says..you could spend many vexing hours fitting it too. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-12-2011, 11:28 AM	#3
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	I can fit them,the hardest one to fit is the CMR Stock iron.It just takes a lot of time and a lot of emery paper. Thanks George

10-13-2011, 01:15 PM	#7
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	I have a reproduction stock that become too lose after first couple of rounds. My problem is opposite, how to make it tight again and how to harden repro - iron properly? It looks like it was made out of cast and then finished of by machining. Quality of the metal used is in question.

10-13-2011, 05:30 PM	#8
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 242 Times in 92 Posts	I cut a strip from a business card as wide as the tang of the pistol and longer than the groove in the iron. I then put it in the iron with a small bit folded over as a tab to hold on to. I then insert the tang into the iron and rip off the tab after twisting the lock. This will usually tighten up a loose stock iron nicely and is not noticable.

10-13-2011, 10:45 PM	#9
dru86 New User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the replies guys. I got the stock to fit, it took about an hour of filing various bits. I actually had some riffler files given to my by my grandfather but hand never used them until now (I didn't even know they're called "rifflers"). It was a really tight finish once i was done but has loosen up a little now that I've taken it on and off a few times. They certainly use a soft iron in them.