Going to be selling my Luger as soon as I get it back....

Terry Tiell · 01-18-2013, 02:33 PM

Details deleted.

If I get the Luger back it will be for sale.

singleshotman · 01-18-2013, 03:01 PM

The first mistake you made was telling the police ANYTHING,the Police in many states will arrest first and ask questions later.At least thar's the way the Police worked in CA.I had to leave California for reasons unrelated to her Stupid gun laws, which by the way did not require a permit t o own any handgun.But i'm in Texas,the weather is worse than in sunny Southern Cakifornia.But the air is freer here than in California.

Edward Tinker · 01-18-2013, 03:41 PM

Terry that really sucks.

But they raided your house for a 'unregistered' luger?

How did they know, i.e. someone 'tip' them off?

I did not know that Maryland had registration laws that stringent...

alanint · 01-18-2013, 04:43 PM

There is a word missing. I think Terry is saying that he is lucky that they DID NOT shoot his dogs.

Edward Tinker · 01-18-2013, 05:26 PM

That is a fear I have, that when cops bust into a gang-banger or drug home is to possibly shoot the dogs. Not that I fear the police, as I have a law enforcement background, but being accused of something can get you into trouble. And if a 'gun' is mentioned, the cops take it very seriously (as they should), but when fairly innocent people are charged, its a different story for those involved.

Ed

DavidJayUden · 01-18-2013, 06:07 PM

Wow!
dju

alvin · 01-18-2013, 06:33 PM

Well,,,,, in the movie "Schindler's List", we saw German using stethoscopes to find hiding Jews. It's Hitler to blame, but I have to say the order executing men had lots of energy.

wayne8661 · 01-18-2013, 07:39 PM

That is unsettling to hear, I wish you the best.

Curly1 · 01-18-2013, 08:46 PM

Wow what a waste of LEO manpower 20 guys for 2 weapons what a shame.

I hope you do get your weapons back.

DavidJayUden · 01-18-2013, 09:42 PM

This case should show each and every one of us that we are all threatened by the anti gun mob mentality that is being hyped by our own news media. Be afraid, be very afraid.
dju

Terry Tiell · 01-18-2013, 10:56 PM

Details deleted.

If I get the Luger back it will be for sale.

saab-bob · 01-18-2013, 10:59 PM

Terry
This is a scary piece of news. Really sorry to hear about it.
I found this excerpt from a MD shooting forum that pertains to your situation.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=62671

It looks like you are not the only one getting incorrect info from MSP.
Quite possibly, the first trooper you talked to took notes and since the push is now on to "DO SOMETHING" about illegal guns,you where chosen!
God Bless!
Bob

Curly1 · 01-18-2013, 11:04 PM

I guess the lesson here is to not answer any questions w/o your legal representation.

The law can be it's own worst enemy at times. They must not have much to do in Maryland.

Sieger · 01-19-2013, 01:15 AM

Hi:

I lived in Maryland for 30 years but moved away in 1985, before the socialists took over there.

You won't be getting your guns back, the Court will not award you any damages and you will be lucky not to be fined.

Since registration equals confiscation, they just confiscated your firearms early!

Good luck and consider moving to Virginia.

Sieger

cirelaw · 01-19-2013, 01:39 PM

Do we know what state has the most lax laws. I just got my navy/artillery and because I have a Florida concealed license permit, it took only one phone call to the feds and all went fine! Eric

DavidJayUden · 01-19-2013, 02:36 PM

Terry:
Please keep us informed as this nightmare unfolds.
Best of luck. It's not a situation I'd want to find myself in.
dju

DavidJayUden · 01-19-2013, 02:42 PM

Terry:
Also, sometime if you could, would you put everything in story/paragraph form, include times, dates, places, names, etc. I'd like to post it on different forums, send it around, etc. Certainly gives new life to the old phrase, Jackbooted Thugs. And having everything documented may help you in the years ahead if this thing doesn't go away quickly.
Seems to me that the gov't is taking advantage of the anti-gun hysteria. We saw the same thing in the Clinton years.
davidjayuden@msn.com
dju

Norme · 01-19-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Terry:
Also, sometime if you could, would you put everything in story/paragraph form, include times, dates, places, names, etc. I'd like to post it on different forums, send it around, etc. Certainly gives new life to the old phrase, Jackbooted Thugs. And having everything documented may help you in the years ahead if this thing doesn't go away quickly.
Seems to me that the gov't is taking advantage of the anti-gun hysteria. We saw the same thing in the Clinton years.
davidjayuden@msn.com
dju

Hi Terry, I don't mean to cast doubt on your story, but before David circulates it, it's important to be sure that it's factual and unexaggerated. Were there really 20 Tactical Police? Were they really "jack booted and hooded"? Did they, in fact, "kick in your door, and trash your home"? I'm sure the first thing your attorney told you, was to take photos of the damage, can you produce these photos?
Regards, Norm

pitsword · 01-19-2013, 05:32 PM

Terry, God bless you Brother. What a nightmare. I shall never understand how folks can allow those laws to be passed. Maybe for us here in Maine in the future..far distant I pray. I told my wife of your ordeal this AM at breakfast, she is mortified that this happens in her adopted country. She was born in Germany in 1944 and knows, remembers what happens to an unarmed populace. She is a member of NRA and a CCW holder. We can give you cover Brother if you ever want to move North...just do not do it in a nor'easter. Best to you, Vince

Edward Tinker · 01-19-2013, 07:26 PM

Ok, as someone who knows how this goes, quit talking about it; don't pass the story along; don't listen to the negatives because every case is different, I mean, why would you believe someone on the forum (no offense) over your own lawyer?

Write down everything while it is fresh, remember who you talked to and what dates and times.

Ed

01-18-2013, 02:33 PM	#1
Terry Tiell User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Fascist State of Maryland Posts: 224 Thanks: 55 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts	Going to be selling my Luger as soon as I get it back.... Details deleted. If I get the Luger back it will be for sale. __________________ Trying to redo grand dads Luger the best I can. Last edited by Terry Tiell; 01-19-2013 at 11:37 PM.

01-18-2013, 03:41 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Terry that really sucks. But they raided your house for a 'unregistered' luger? How did they know, i.e. someone 'tip' them off? I did not know that Maryland had registration laws that stringent... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-18-2013, 05:26 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	That is a fear I have, that when cops bust into a gang-banger or drug home is to possibly shoot the dogs. Not that I fear the police, as I have a law enforcement background, but being accused of something can get you into trouble. And if a 'gun' is mentioned, the cops take it very seriously (as they should), but when fairly innocent people are charged, its a different story for those involved. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-18-2013, 08:46 PM	#9
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,236 Thanks: 116 Thanked 708 Times in 369 Posts	Wow what a waste of LEO manpower 20 guys for 2 weapons what a shame. I hope you do get your weapons back. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

01-18-2013, 10:56 PM	#11
Terry Tiell User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Fascist State of Maryland Posts: 224 Thanks: 55 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts	Details deleted. If I get the Luger back it will be for sale. __________________ Trying to redo grand dads Luger the best I can. Last edited by Terry Tiell; 01-19-2013 at 11:38 PM.

01-18-2013, 03:01 PM	#2
singleshotman User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	The first mistake you made was telling the police ANYTHING,the Police in many states will arrest first and ask questions later.At least thar's the way the Police worked in CA.I had to leave California for reasons unrelated to her Stupid gun laws, which by the way did not require a permit t o own any handgun.But i'm in Texas,the weather is worse than in sunny Southern Cakifornia.But the air is freer here than in California.

01-18-2013, 04:43 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	There is a word missing. I think Terry is saying that he is lucky that they DID NOT shoot his dogs.

01-18-2013, 06:07 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Wow! dju

01-18-2013, 06:33 PM	#7
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Well,,,,, in the movie "Schindler's List", we saw German using stethoscopes to find hiding Jews. It's Hitler to blame, but I have to say the order executing men had lots of energy.

01-18-2013, 07:39 PM	#8
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	That is unsettling to hear, I wish you the best.

01-18-2013, 09:42 PM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	This case should show each and every one of us that we are all threatened by the anti gun mob mentality that is being hyped by our own news media. Be afraid, be very afraid. dju

01-18-2013, 10:59 PM	#12
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Terry This is a scary piece of news. Really sorry to hear about it. I found this excerpt from a MD shooting forum that pertains to your situation. http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=62671 It looks like you are not the only one getting incorrect info from MSP. Quite possibly, the first trooper you talked to took notes and since the push is now on to "DO SOMETHING" about illegal guns,you where chosen! God Bless! Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

01-18-2013, 11:04 PM	#13
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,236 Thanks: 116 Thanked 708 Times in 369 Posts	I guess the lesson here is to not answer any questions w/o your legal representation. The law can be it's own worst enemy at times. They must not have much to do in Maryland. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

01-19-2013, 01:15 AM	#14
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Hi: I lived in Maryland for 30 years but moved away in 1985, before the socialists took over there. You won't be getting your guns back, the Court will not award you any damages and you will be lucky not to be fined. Since registration equals confiscation, they just confiscated your firearms early! Good luck and consider moving to Virginia. Sieger

01-19-2013, 01:39 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Do we know what state has the most lax laws. I just got my navy/artillery and because I have a Florida concealed license permit, it took only one phone call to the feds and all went fine! Eric

01-19-2013, 02:36 PM	#16
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Terry: Please keep us informed as this nightmare unfolds. Best of luck. It's not a situation I'd want to find myself in. dju

01-19-2013, 02:42 PM	#17
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Terry: Also, sometime if you could, would you put everything in story/paragraph form, include times, dates, places, names, etc. I'd like to post it on different forums, send it around, etc. Certainly gives new life to the old phrase, Jackbooted Thugs. And having everything documented may help you in the years ahead if this thing doesn't go away quickly. Seems to me that the gov't is taking advantage of the anti-gun hysteria. We saw the same thing in the Clinton years. davidjayuden@msn.com dju

01-19-2013, 05:32 PM	#19
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	Terry, God bless you Brother. What a nightmare. I shall never understand how folks can allow those laws to be passed. Maybe for us here in Maine in the future..far distant I pray. I told my wife of your ordeal this AM at breakfast, she is mortified that this happens in her adopted country. She was born in Germany in 1944 and knows, remembers what happens to an unarmed populace. She is a member of NRA and a CCW holder. We can give you cover Brother if you ever want to move North...just do not do it in a nor'easter. Best to you, Vince

01-19-2013, 07:26 PM	#20
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Ok, as someone who knows how this goes, quit talking about it; don't pass the story along; don't listen to the negatives because every case is different, I mean, why would you believe someone on the forum (no offense) over your own lawyer? Write down everything while it is fresh, remember who you talked to and what dates and times. Ed