Center Toggle Retention Pin

P08P38P1 · 08-25-2021, 02:02 PM

RE 1937 S/42: Newbie to Luger Forum. Would appreciate any advice on replacing the center toggle pin's retention pin. How difficult is it to remove/replace? I received this minty pistol recently. When cleaning/lubing it yesterday, I found the center toggle pin falls out. I can see the retention pin from the underside of the toggle. I appears to be worn or sheared off as it is smooth when probed with a pick. Many thanks.

G.T. · 08-25-2021, 02:27 PM

H to all, if the little retaining pin is sheared off, (common) the middle toggle pin will generally slide right out? The biggest challenge is going to be removing the remnants of the retaining pin, and finding a proper size replacement. I can help you with both! The biggest culprit on loose toggle trains is the middle toggle pin wear? I just had some new pins made, (heat treated O1 tool steel, hardened to approx. 48 C Rockwell) and I replace them if even a little slop is present? The little retaining pin, I custom fit as I have found a slight taper makes reassembly a nice tight fit... To remove the remnant, I used a narrow tapered pin punch, with the tip being slightly under 1/16" you get a lot better / solid hit on the pin. I drive it from the inside out, on a piece of thick plastic, or supported by a block of lead Let me know if you need my assistance, at: gctomeks@msn.com Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r....GT

rhuff · 08-25-2021, 06:03 PM

OP, GT is your man unless you feel confident and capable of doing it yourself. He has helped a great number of Luger owners on this forum and the other one. He is good to go.

HerrKaiser · 08-25-2021, 08:51 PM

Seconds on GT. Anything the man breathes on seems to get fixed and somehow improved. 100/100 recommend.

Sieger · 08-25-2021, 11:18 PM

[quote=herrkaiser;340866]seconds on gt. Anything the man breathes on seems to get fixed and somehow improved. 100/100 recommend.[/

AMEN!!!!!!

P08P38P1 · 08-26-2021, 06:41 AM

Many thanks, G.T. and all for the endorsements. I will contact via your email.

grantman · 08-30-2021, 03:18 AM

Another vote for GT...he is the Maestro of magazines

G.T. · 09-05-2021, 12:00 AM

Hi to all! First of all, thanks for the kind words and votes of confidence from my Luger forum family!
Good news from the hobbit workshop... Pin has been replaced and top half is back on its way home! I had an original pin that was used, and it fit great!
Getting the remnant out, was as previously thought to be, difficult indeed! Went thru two Starrett punches...

but we won out eventually!... Best to all, til....lat'r.....GT...

spangy · 09-05-2021, 02:06 PM

In case it needs to be said I whole heatedly agree with and endorse G.T.'s skills ... we all learn much from the master.

08-25-2021, 02:02 PM	#1
P08P38P1 New User Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Center Toggle Retention Pin RE 1937 S/42: Newbie to Luger Forum. Would appreciate any advice on replacing the center toggle pin's retention pin. How difficult is it to remove/replace? I received this minty pistol recently. When cleaning/lubing it yesterday, I found the center toggle pin falls out. I can see the retention pin from the underside of the toggle. I appears to be worn or sheared off as it is smooth when probed with a pick. Many thanks.

08-25-2021, 02:27 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	middle toggle pin replacement! H to all, if the little retaining pin is sheared off, (common) the middle toggle pin will generally slide right out? The biggest challenge is going to be removing the remnants of the retaining pin, and finding a proper size replacement. I can help you with both! The biggest culprit on loose toggle trains is the middle toggle pin wear? I just had some new pins made, (heat treated O1 tool steel, hardened to approx. 48 C Rockwell) and I replace them if even a little slop is present? The little retaining pin, I custom fit as I have found a slight taper makes reassembly a nice tight fit... To remove the remnant, I used a narrow tapered pin punch, with the tip being slightly under 1/16" you get a lot better / solid hit on the pin. I drive it from the inside out, on a piece of thick plastic, or supported by a block of lead Let me know if you need my assistance, at: gctomeks@msn.com Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r....GT

08-25-2021, 06:03 PM	#3
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	OP, GT is your man unless you feel confident and capable of doing it yourself. He has helped a great number of Luger owners on this forum and the other one. He is good to go. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

08-25-2021, 08:51 PM	#4
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Seconds on GT. Anything the man breathes on seems to get fixed and somehow improved. 100/100 recommend. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

09-05-2021, 12:00 AM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	retaining pin issue! Hi to all! First of all, thanks for the kind words and votes of confidence from my Luger forum family! Good news from the hobbit workshop... Pin has been replaced and top half is back on its way home! I had an original pin that was used, and it fit great! Getting the remnant out, was as previously thought to be, difficult indeed! Went thru two Starrett punches... but we won out eventually!... Best to all, til....lat'r.....GT...

08-25-2021, 11:18 PM	#5
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	[quote=herrkaiser;340866]seconds on gt. Anything the man breathes on seems to get fixed and somehow improved. 100/100 recommend.[/ AMEN!!!!!!

08-26-2021, 06:41 AM	#6
P08P38P1 New User Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Many thanks, G.T. and all for the endorsements. I will contact via your email.

08-30-2021, 03:18 AM	#7
grantman User Join Date: May 2019 Location: Northern Idaho Posts: 84 Thanks: 2 Thanked 34 Times in 22 Posts	Another vote for GT...he is the Maestro of magazines

09-05-2021, 02:06 PM	#9
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	In case it needs to be said I whole heatedly agree with and endorse G.T.'s skills ... we all learn much from the master. __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.