1912 Erfurt Hold open

jvelecky · 01-14-2017, 10:40 PM

I have a Regiment marked 1912 Erfurt fortunately that is all matching. However this does not have a hold open when it fired the last round or when cocking the firearm unlike my 1917 Erfurt. Did this just miss an upgrade or is there more to the story. Thanks

wlyon · 01-14-2017, 10:58 PM

1912 Erfurts were manufactured with out a holdopen. Many but not all had a holdopen added later. Bill

ithacaartist · 01-14-2017, 11:00 PM

Most were retro-fitted but some escaped the process depending on who had them at the time. Slip us the regimental stamping, and I'll bet someone will know the scoop on yours. Pics would bring in some answers--you know the drill!

Norme · 01-14-2017, 11:15 PM

Hi John,
Welcome to the forum! Most of the early P08's that were not retrofitted with a hold-open prior to the outbreak of hostilities in Aug 1914 were those issued to Bavarian units. It's likely that the unit mark on your gun begins with a capital B.
Regards, Norm

jvelecky · 01-14-2017, 11:15 PM

Thanks. I shall post some pics.

wayne8661 · 01-15-2017, 09:02 AM

What is the Unit marking?

jvelecky · 01-22-2017, 11:58 PM

The top is my 1912 and the bottom is a 1917 Erfurt, Any information on the unit markings would be appreciated. Thanks

George Anderson · 01-23-2017, 08:05 AM

180 Infantry Regiment, II Battalion Staff. It's a Wuerttemberger regiment. Wuerttembergers, like Bavarians, are normally found without hold-opens added.

01-14-2017, 10:40 PM	#1
jvelecky New User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1912 Erfurt Hold open I have a Regiment marked 1912 Erfurt fortunately that is all matching. However this does not have a hold open when it fired the last round or when cocking the firearm unlike my 1917 Erfurt. Did this just miss an upgrade or is there more to the story. Thanks

01-14-2017, 10:58 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,633 Thanks: 3,173 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	1912 Erfurts were manufactured with out a holdopen. Many but not all had a holdopen added later. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,339 Thanks: 7,263 Thanked 2,564 Times in 1,362 Posts	Most were retro-fitted but some escaped the process depending on who had them at the time. Slip us the regimental stamping, and I'll bet someone will know the scoop on yours. Pics would bring in some answers--you know the drill! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

01-22-2017, 11:58 PM	#7
jvelecky New User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unit Markings The top is my 1912 and the bottom is a 1917 Erfurt, Any information on the unit markings would be appreciated. Thanks Attached Thumbnails

01-14-2017, 11:15 PM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi John, Welcome to the forum! Most of the early P08's that were not retrofitted with a hold-open prior to the outbreak of hostilities in Aug 1914 were those issued to Bavarian units. It's likely that the unit mark on your gun begins with a capital B. Regards, Norm

01-15-2017, 09:02 AM	#6
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	What is the Unit marking?

01-23-2017, 08:05 AM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	180 Infantry Regiment, II Battalion Staff. It's a Wuerttemberger regiment. Wuerttembergers, like Bavarians, are normally found without hold-opens added.