Price My Luger

Fritz Tubaman · 01-25-2011, 03:15 AM

I just came into possession of a DWM 1916 Luger that great granddaddy took off the pistol belt of some German guy during the WWII

Its got matching numbers, 2 magazines, a take down tool and the the leather holster is in great condition. Basically the gun just sat in the closet for the last 66 years.

Grandma wants me to sell the gun I guess I'm looking for a ball park value on the weapon can anybody lend me some advice

Edward Tinker · 01-25-2011, 03:34 AM

Rich, welcome to the forum.

How about some good, clear pictures?

Is it all matching (even some small internal parts)?

Do the magazines match?

A rough estimate would be $600-$1000 for everything, as it all depends on condition, condition and originality.

Also, you don't say where you are, big price difference if in Canada than if say Kentucky?

Ed

Fritz Tubaman · 01-25-2011, 06:18 AM

I'm in Minnesota
I don't know about the internal parts
this gun basically came off the German's pistol Belt and into the closet at granddad's house
its in really good shape

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Fritz Tubaman · 01-25-2011, 06:19 AM

the numbers on the magazines don't match

alanint · 01-25-2011, 07:22 AM

The sear block does not appear to be numbered.

connectfour · 01-25-2011, 07:34 AM

Looks like a nice rig! I am in the market for an early luger. Please keep me in mind if you decide to sell. Thanks!

Fritz Tubaman · 01-25-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

The sear block does not appear to be numbered.

is that the part that comes up when the safety is engaged?
it is numbered

I was having trouble getting good pictures because of glare

I need a better photo rig

anyways what do you think its worth?
I would like a few opinions

Edward Tinker · 01-25-2011, 11:18 AM

If all matching, not including mags, then probably $1300-$1500

The freckling hurts the value a lot, it is is in good shape, but not excellent.

I figure a $1000 for the gun (if all matching and that is important), holster $225-$250, and extra magazine around $125-$150, tool if blank, then $45-$60 and if marked, say with an eagle 63, then around $80

Ed

Fritz Tubaman · 01-25-2011, 09:05 PM

Thanks guys you've been a lot of help

Lugerdoc · 01-26-2011, 10:34 AM

It would appear that the mid toggle link is #20 vise the #23 on the rest of the parts. TH

Ron Wood · 01-26-2011, 11:46 AM

Tom,
That is what I thought too until I enlarged the photo. It is 23.

policeluger · 01-26-2011, 12:36 PM

needs a TD spring

mntaxpayer · 02-24-2011, 11:20 PM

Small world. I bought this gun at a gun shop today.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-25-2011, 01:08 AM

Grandma was in a hurry for some cash!

Edward Tinker · 02-25-2011, 03:13 AM

hmmm, I wonder how much the gunshop gave old fritz?

Would be interesting to know what it sold for (not trying to be nosey, but curious) and did you get everything pictured above?

guys come here asking for evaluation, it would be nice if they offered it here

alanint · 02-25-2011, 07:16 AM

It may have been the gun shop itself posting for value, with the old "Grandpa's gun" cover story.

sheepherder · 02-25-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

It may have been the gun shop itself posting for value, with the old "Grandpa's gun" cover story.

Fritz never said it was *his* grandma/granddaddy that brought it back...He just said it came into his possession...

DavidJayUden · 02-25-2011, 09:32 AM

Regardless, it is curious as to whom we were dealing with, what their motive was, what it sold for, etc. And it does seem to be bad form to not even offer it here first.
But most important is that mntaxpayer got a sweet Luger, one that has come out of the closet, so to speak. And we may not have seen the last of that gun. As in any collector circle, nothing ever goes away, it just gets shuffled around a bit
dju

Jack Lawman · 02-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Here's a rule oft listed on many of the "Gunfighter Commandments":
Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.

This forum is friendly to everyone (especially first time posters like our luger salesman). That's not a bad thing, it just invites the occasional scheister.

On the other hand, some in the gun resale business criticize forum members for making lowball purchases off new posters.

Just sayin'...

1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough.
3. Have a plan.
4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work.
5*. Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4".
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap, life isn't.
8. Move away from your attacker, distance is your friend.
9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot.

* Bit over the top! Paranoia will destroy ya.

mntaxpayer · 02-25-2011, 01:39 PM

I picked up the Luger with everything except the takedown tool which was likely moved to another Luger that was/is for sale in the same shop for much more since it was the Artillery Model.

I purchased the Luger for $1125. I always wanted one and don't see them very often. As indicted in the other posts, the magazine numbers do not match the gun, nor does the right side wood grip. The others seem to match from my inspection after a teardown. It looks better in person than in the photos. I have a 1917 Colt and figured a German firearm from that era would be nice. I exercise my guns occasionally at the range, I don't operate a museum.

Tom

01-25-2011, 03:15 AM	#1
Fritz Tubaman User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Price My Luger I just came into possession of a DWM 1916 Luger that great granddaddy took off the pistol belt of some German guy during the WWII Its got matching numbers, 2 magazines, a take down tool and the the leather holster is in great condition. Basically the gun just sat in the closet for the last 66 years. Grandma wants me to sell the gun I guess I'm looking for a ball park value on the weapon can anybody lend me some advice

01-25-2011, 11:18 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	If all matching, not including mags, then probably $1300-$1500 The freckling hurts the value a lot, it is is in good shape, but not excellent. I figure a $1000 for the gun (if all matching and that is important), holster $225-$250, and extra magazine around $125-$150, tool if blank, then $45-$60 and if marked, say with an eagle 63, then around $80 Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-26-2011, 10:34 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	It would appear that the mid toggle link is #20 vise the #23 on the rest of the parts. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-26-2011, 11:46 AM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	Tom, That is what I thought too until I enlarged the photo. It is 23. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-25-2011, 01:08 AM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Grandma was in a hurry for some cash! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-25-2011, 03:34 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Rich, welcome to the forum. How about some good, clear pictures? Is it all matching (even some small internal parts)? Do the magazines match? A rough estimate would be $600-$1000 for everything, as it all depends on condition, condition and originality. Also, you don't say where you are, big price difference if in Canada than if say Kentucky? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-25-2011, 06:18 AM	#3
Fritz Tubaman User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm in Minnesota I don't know about the internal parts this gun basically came off the German's pistol Belt and into the closet at granddad's house its in really good shape

01-25-2011, 06:19 AM	#4
Fritz Tubaman User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the numbers on the magazines don't match

01-25-2011, 07:22 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The sear block does not appear to be numbered.

01-25-2011, 07:34 AM	#6
connectfour User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks like a nice rig! I am in the market for an early luger. Please keep me in mind if you decide to sell. Thanks!

01-25-2011, 09:05 PM	#9
Fritz Tubaman User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys you've been a lot of help

01-26-2011, 12:36 PM	#12
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	needs a TD spring

02-24-2011, 11:20 PM	#13
mntaxpayer New User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Small world. I bought this gun at a gun shop today.

02-25-2011, 03:13 AM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	hmmm, I wonder how much the gunshop gave old fritz? Would be interesting to know what it sold for (not trying to be nosey, but curious) and did you get everything pictured above? guys come here asking for evaluation, it would be nice if they offered it here __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-25-2011, 07:16 AM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	It may have been the gun shop itself posting for value, with the old "Grandpa's gun" cover story.

02-25-2011, 09:32 AM	#18
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Regardless, it is curious as to whom we were dealing with, what their motive was, what it sold for, etc. And it does seem to be bad form to not even offer it here first. But most important is that mntaxpayer got a sweet Luger, one that has come out of the closet, so to speak. And we may not have seen the last of that gun. As in any collector circle, nothing ever goes away, it just gets shuffled around a bit dju

02-25-2011, 01:33 PM	#19
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Gunfight rules Here's a rule oft listed on many of the "Gunfighter Commandments": Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one. This forum is friendly to everyone (especially first time posters like our luger salesman). That's not a bad thing, it just invites the occasional scheister. On the other hand, some in the gun resale business criticize forum members for making lowball purchases off new posters. Just sayin'... 1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one. 2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough. 3. Have a plan. 4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work. 5. Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4". 7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap, life isn't. 8. Move away from your attacker, distance is your friend. 9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. 10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours. 11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. 12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived. 13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot. Bit over the top! Paranoia will destroy ya. __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

02-25-2011, 01:39 PM	#20
mntaxpayer New User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Update I picked up the Luger with everything except the takedown tool which was likely moved to another Luger that was/is for sale in the same shop for much more since it was the Artillery Model. I purchased the Luger for $1125. I always wanted one and don't see them very often. As indicted in the other posts, the magazine numbers do not match the gun, nor does the right side wood grip. The others seem to match from my inspection after a teardown. It looks better in person than in the photos. I have a 1917 Colt and figured a German firearm from that era would be nice. I exercise my guns occasionally at the range, I don't operate a museum. Tom