I Have Ithacaartist to thank for his suggestion.
I bought an Erma KGP-69 missing an extractor.
Because of the missing extractor bids were very few and far between
I searched out extractor, pin, spring before I bid
Got it and inserted the new extractor.
Ithacaartist's suggestion was a cardboard box with holes cut - hand/vision at one end - firing through the other. Should the extractor decide to extract itself entirely - the parts would be in the box.
Thanks Dave
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