I was somewhat skeptical of the Blue Dot loads that Speer recommended for the 9mm Luger cartridge in their 1987 manual. So I measured out a couple loads and poured them in a 9mm case. Here's what Speer recommends as max loads of Blue Dot for -
95gr FMJ bullet = 9.8gr Blue Dot
115gr FMJ bullet = 8.9gr Blue Dot
Here's my cases...With weighed loads...[pic attached]...
When the Freedom Arms 454 Casull first came out, I bought one of the 'field grade' 8 3/8" bbl stainless revolvers. One of the recommended handloads used a compressed charge of two different powders, layered not mixed. (There was no powder available at that time that would give the energy/velocity that FA advertised). It was pretty scary to shoot, and 'bone jarring' is an understatement.
I imagine these loads that Speer recommends for the 9mm Luger cartridge would be scary, and bone jarring, too...