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318is_Parabellum · 08-04-2013, 06:39 PM

Hello,
2nd post on this forum.

I recently acquired a rather interesting P. 08, and I thought that posting about it here would help shed some light on it's past...

Simson blank chamber serial # 5827
Simson and Co. Suhl marked toggle, all matching with Simson E/6 proofs on all small parts (including axle pin) except:
-the ground, renumbered/force matched sideplate,
-9mm 4 inch crown/N marked (replacement) barrel (original E/6-proofed front sight present on replacement barrel)
-sear bar replaced with plum bar w/ obliterated mark

Partial 'circle X' mark on front of frame below serial number (Russian capture mark, correct?)

2 E/6 proofs on stock lug bottom
E/6, E/6, E/6 and Weimar Eagle (firing?) proof on R side of frame/'barrel extension
E. German extruded blued steel marked "2/1001' with ground and forced match Al bottom

Sarco import-marked just above R grip (poor fitting wood replacement grips, no E/6 proofs on grip screws)

UNIT MARKED on front grip strap:

M.W./L.u.V.J.3.

I suspect this is a Weimar-era Reichswehr unit marking, the "M.W." means 'minen werfer'/trench mortar if I am correct?

Help with interpreting this unit mark is much appreciated!!

Sorry for the wall of text, I wanted to be precise in my description!

I thank the experts present here for their opinions and observations regarding my pistol!

08-04-2013, 06:39 PM	#1
318is_Parabellum User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130 Thanks: 80 Thanked 75 Times in 31 Posts	Unit marking on RC Simson blank chamber P. 08: "M.W./L.u.V.J.3." Hello, 2nd post on this forum. I recently acquired a rather interesting P. 08, and I thought that posting about it here would help shed some light on it's past... Simson blank chamber serial # 5827 Simson and Co. Suhl marked toggle, all matching with Simson E/6 proofs on all small parts (including axle pin) except: -the ground, renumbered/force matched sideplate, -9mm 4 inch crown/N marked (replacement) barrel (original E/6-proofed front sight present on replacement barrel) -sear bar replaced with plum bar w/ obliterated mark Partial 'circle X' mark on front of frame below serial number (Russian capture mark, correct?) 2 E/6 proofs on stock lug bottom E/6, E/6, E/6 and Weimar Eagle (firing?) proof on R side of frame/'barrel extension E. German extruded blued steel marked "2/1001' with ground and forced match Al bottom Sarco import-marked just above R grip (poor fitting wood replacement grips, no E/6 proofs on grip screws) UNIT MARKED on front grip strap: M.W./L.u.V.J.3. I suspect this is a Weimar-era Reichswehr unit marking, the "M.W." means 'minen werfer'/trench mortar if I am correct? Help with interpreting this unit mark is much appreciated!! Sorry for the wall of text, I wanted to be precise in my description! I thank the experts present here for their opinions and observations regarding my pistol! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by 318is_Parabellum; 08-05-2013 at 01:57 AM. Reason: edited to add pics, add unit marks to title