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Kyrie · 06-11-2002, 08:16 PM

Hi Greg,

In the Ownersâ?? Corner, in the folders marked Kyrie, take a look at the barrel numbers of the 1923 Commercial and the 1920 Commercial Artillery (in the Artilleries folder). Both of these pistols have three digit numbers on the barrel - the Artillery number matches the frame serial and the 1923 Commercial barrel number does not.

That these barrels are devoid of any other markings, and especially proof marks, is a argument that they were installed here in the US. OTOH, they could have been installed in Germany and not proofed since if they werenâ??t intended for sale in Germany then German proof law would not apply.

We have more questions than answers as to when, where, by whom, and why these barrels were installed. The only thing we can say is the barrel on your Luger is not unique - there are two more just like it in the Ownersâ?? Corner. Note also the 1916 Erfurt, also under Kyrie in the Ownersâ?? Corner. This one also has a 7,65 mm barrel, but is completely unmarked. It may or may not be another example.

Arenâ??t 1920 Commercials fun? ;-)

Warm regards,

Kyrie
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06-11-2002, 08:16 PM	#6
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Hi Greg, In the Ownersâ?? Corner, in the folders marked Kyrie, take a look at the barrel numbers of the 1923 Commercial and the 1920 Commercial Artillery (in the Artilleries folder). Both of these pistols have three digit numbers on the barrel - the Artillery number matches the frame serial and the 1923 Commercial barrel number does not. That these barrels are devoid of any other markings, and especially proof marks, is a argument that they were installed here in the US. OTOH, they could have been installed in Germany and not proofed since if they werenâ??t intended for sale in Germany then German proof law would not apply. We have more questions than answers as to when, where, by whom, and why these barrels were installed. The only thing we can say is the barrel on your Luger is not unique - there are two more just like it in the Ownersâ?? Corner. Note also the 1916 Erfurt, also under Kyrie in the Ownersâ?? Corner. This one also has a 7,65 mm barrel, but is completely unmarked. It may or may not be another example. Arenâ??t 1920 Commercials fun? ;-) Warm regards, Kyrie Moderator - Cruffler_Forum on Yahoo Groups "The flame free C&R Forum."