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mrerick · 08-19-2021, 11:55 AM

Switzerland had standardized on the .30 Luger round, and was producing their own pistols from DWM supplied parts and under license by the end of WW-I.

Some were made in 9mm and from surplus WW-I parts. From Bobba:

"A certain number of these pistols in cal. 9mm Parabellum are also known. Some of these actually were not born this calibre, but were later modified in the USA; strictly according to the terms, these should not even be considered as a modifications derived from a "Swiss" variation, but simply a "hors-ligne" assembling."

Many had Aberchrombie and Fitch of New York markings. Serial numbers were in the 2000 to 3500 range. with "i" suffix letter like other Alphabet DWM Commercials.

Apparently Ralph Shattuck dabbled in barrel replacements of some of these, with "Made in Switzerland" rolled on the barrels.

Best guess is that this was a .30 Luger DWM commercial that arrived in Switzerland with a 100mm barrel, and that the barrel was switched out to 9mm after arriving in the USA at some point. It's speculation, but follows along Bobba's research.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Switzerland had standardized on the .30 Luger round, and was producing their own pistols from DWM supplied parts and under license by the end of WW-I. Some were made in 9mm and from surplus WW-I parts. From Bobba: "A certain number of these pistols in cal. 9mm Parabellum are also known. Some of these actually were not born this calibre, but were later modified in the USA; strictly according to the terms, these should not even be considered as a modifications derived from a "Swiss" variation, but simply a "hors-ligne" assembling." Many had Aberchrombie and Fitch of New York markings. Serial numbers were in the 2000 to 3500 range. with "i" suffix letter like other Alphabet DWM Commercials. Apparently Ralph Shattuck dabbled in barrel replacements of some of these, with "Made in Switzerland" rolled on the barrels. Best guess is that this was a .30 Luger DWM commercial that arrived in Switzerland with a 100mm barrel, and that the barrel was switched out to 9mm after arriving in the USA at some point. It's speculation, but follows along Bobba's research. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.