[Ron Wood]

If you detected a note of skepticism in my post, you wouldn't be very far off target. Guess I would like to know if any documentation exists on this revelation also. I'm not trying to be difficult here, it is just that suddenly there is information surfacing that is heretofore unknown. I do not object to speculation, I do a lot of it myself, but I like it labled as speculation if it is. I have difficulty accepting anything proffered as fact if it has no precedent, and as a Luger enthusiast that enjoys research and history I delight in the details. The existence of two sets of magazine blueprints dated 1904 clearly labled "7.65mm" and "9mm" is worthy of note, but to draw the conclusion that this was done to be able to tell the difference in the dark is an educated guess. The statement that the first Navys were 7.65mm needs substantiation.