Actually kind of fun.... the top pic is of a JVM baby and the reason I'm pretty sure, is I made the magazine bottom for it! And maybe the grips! (Checkered by George Sarkisian? sp.?) anyway... that should get things started... BTW, forum activity seems to be down, I blame the holidays, maybe hunting season... Oh well, still a lot to see and do... best, til...lat'r....GT...