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Hi there!
I�´ve seen some of these advertisement before, and they all have one thing in common:
They are trying to sell a maybe valuable gun for a horrifying amount of money.
Unfortunately, especially the american market has a certain....affinity to items like these.
Stamping a gun (no matter wich) with a skull -type sign, a rune or some other mere fantasy sign seems to be a kind of permit for printing smebody�´s own dollar bills.
Some of the falsifications are so old, that they are seen to be proven originals just for the long time they are on the market.
The absolutely best piece of literature concerning the P08 , written by Joachim G�¶rtz takes care of some phenomenons wich happen to show up from time to time and cause itchy fingers at some collectors.
As the book is written in german ,it might not yet be translated- and actually German is a quite difficult language.
So let me just list up some of the most common fakes wich are mentioned.
- The "black widow" -tale. All parts on the P08 after �´37 were black, some sellers created a bullxxxx story that this was just for the SS said it had to be that way.
-"Danzig test Lugers" - there were no such tests in Danzig...fairy tale, either
-"Eastern Airforce Luger" : Price -pushing tale concerning the late (41/42) P08 models. They may be expensive anyway, the story is rubbish.
-"Totenkopf Lugers" There were several stamped P08 wich were manufactured during WW1. But there is absolutely no proof that even they are originals. Every P08 produced during the NS era and stamped with a skull or SS runes is most likely to be a fake anyway. The discussions, wether the skull guns are originals or not, have some kind of religious character. Owners (and sellers) on thre one hand, sceptics on the other. Divided through the holy $dollar$ or â?¬uro.
For example: A real fine matching numbers P08 S/42 1940 sells for about 1000 to 1300â?¬ here in Germany. Maximum. Place a deadhead or a rune on it and double or triple the value.
Making money is a very popular hobby. Here and elsewhrere.
The malicious thing about it is, that -once you hold an excellent P08 in your hands- you (and me and almost everybody else ) will feel the..fascination?
The "must have" feeling. Know what I mean? Guess yes !
My recommendment: Take the money and buy an excellent P08 , matching numbers, spare magazine , leather holster and accessories. They are xxxxxxx expensive either, and the value will remain stable or rise. A skull on the gun would be a "no buy" criteria for me and for lots of other collectors.
If you have time and money enough, come to Germany and visit auctions. These are the places where the real good stuff is sold. I can provide you the necessary info & adresses, if you�´re interested.
A lot of collectors die in these years wich started buying Lugers when we both probably still were liquid. Old men with a lot of money, time and knowledge. These collections will be sold in the next few years. German laws make it almost impossible for the children to keep the guns without special permits. Sad but true. But the guns I�´m talking about right now are the harvard material. I wouldn�´t go for less...it�´s expensive enough anyway.
Best regards!
P.S.: Just mentioned the photo below is not a banner...The photo shows an eagle stamp left of the skull. It is the way that the eagle was marked AFTER 1945 by german authorities. This gun is 100% safe to be a fake with a crude story
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