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ajdrr · 09-20-2005, 11:58 PM

Thanks for the look at the pictures, I really appreciate an informed opinion.

The Mag:

The pictured side above indicates the condition of the other sides and edges. I will take more pics. The entire clip has no signs of pitting, rust or gouges. The follower is machined and is plated (Nickel?) The spring is clean and shiny, the checkered thumb slide button has some small signs of rust. The inside looks clean and shiny - not polished clean, but well kept over years. 9911 is lightly etched by hand with possibly one of those vibrating scribe tools. The wooden plug is in very good shape, and has a stamp mark on the bottom surface towards the end with the pin. It looks very similar to the first (most rearward) stamp on the side of the receiver. The crown has two "tufts" and the tilde ~ under it are almost the same, but the symbol under the tilde looks more like a C with a trapezoid on the bottom. I know it's hard to explain, but I can only see it well with a 10X loupe, I will try to photograph it but I doubt it will come clear...The stamp is the same size as the ones on the receiver.

The Grips:

They are black - almost a glossy black. The outer outer rim/edge around the checkering is smooth and glossy, but seems crudely hand-molded.
They are not a fine plastic mold as one would see made today. There is also a threaded counterbore in each grip, about 3/16" deep and 3/8" diameter on the inside (see picture) . Like something is supposed to thread into these holes?
I can't find anything that looks like a stamp or proof mark. They seem very sturdy, with many sanded areas around the edges and flat inside.

There is a small chip (1/8") on the inside of the right hand grip that leads me to think Bakelight. It looks is a "true" chip, like a chip made on a rock, it is jagged and rough, not what I would expect from plastic.

The Extractor:

The extractor is Russian?
This may be good news. Is there any web info on these?

Thanks again for the insight, this is very interesting and fun. This may turn out to be a heck of a parts gun. I set out to find a WWII Nazi marked decent condition P -08 Luger, and settled for this due to price and knowing I didn't know enough to make a "real", informed, Luger purchase.

I wonder if the sum of these possibly valuable parts and the rest of the gun could be worth a good condition original WWII Luger?, or do I hope for way too much.
I will take detailed pics of the mag, grips and extractor tomorrow.

Thanks,

Andy

09-20-2005, 11:58 PM	#13
ajdrr User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the look at the pictures, I really appreciate an informed opinion. The Mag: The pictured side above indicates the condition of the other sides and edges. I will take more pics. The entire clip has no signs of pitting, rust or gouges. The follower is machined and is plated (Nickel?) The spring is clean and shiny, the checkered thumb slide button has some small signs of rust. The inside looks clean and shiny - not polished clean, but well kept over years. 9911 is lightly etched by hand with possibly one of those vibrating scribe tools. The wooden plug is in very good shape, and has a stamp mark on the bottom surface towards the end with the pin. It looks very similar to the first (most rearward) stamp on the side of the receiver. The crown has two "tufts" and the tilde ~ under it are almost the same, but the symbol under the tilde looks more like a C with a trapezoid on the bottom. I know it's hard to explain, but I can only see it well with a 10X loupe, I will try to photograph it but I doubt it will come clear...The stamp is the same size as the ones on the receiver. The Grips: They are black - almost a glossy black. The outer outer rim/edge around the checkering is smooth and glossy, but seems crudely hand-molded. They are not a fine plastic mold as one would see made today. There is also a threaded counterbore in each grip, about 3/16" deep and 3/8" diameter on the inside (see picture) . Like something is supposed to thread into these holes? I can't find anything that looks like a stamp or proof mark. They seem very sturdy, with many sanded areas around the edges and flat inside. There is a small chip (1/8") on the inside of the right hand grip that leads me to think Bakelight. It looks is a "true" chip, like a chip made on a rock, it is jagged and rough, not what I would expect from plastic. The Extractor: The extractor is Russian? This may be good news. Is there any web info on these? Thanks again for the insight, this is very interesting and fun. This may turn out to be a heck of a parts gun. I set out to find a WWII Nazi marked decent condition P -08 Luger, and settled for this due to price and knowing I didn't know enough to make a "real", informed, Luger purchase. I wonder if the sum of these possibly valuable parts and the rest of the gun could be worth a good condition original WWII Luger?, or do I hope for way too much. I will take detailed pics of the mag, grips and extractor tomorrow. Thanks, Andy