Dwight,
Thanks for the info.
I've been working on getting better photos. I might have some better ones posted in the next few hours. I did get another photo of my moms Luger with the black grips. This is what you called in your post the second gun.
here is another photo of the left side. You can see the N with crown above it and there is the number 5.
There is just not alot of markings on these Lugers.
On the bottom of the barrel on bolth Lugers there is the importer mark.
It reads as.
CIA ST AIR VT
LUGER P08 9mm GERMANY.
But as far as other marks there just is not that many.
On my moms Luger there is the number 5 stamped right below the barrel on the frame. That is it there no other marks there.
You asked if there is any stampings that say GERMANY on eather gun.
There is no marks that say GERMANY on eather gun.
About the magazines I don't know what is on them for marks.
I will have to get back to you on those.
And they are 9mm Lugers I don't see any marks that say .30 cal.
My parents shoot these Lugers and they say they really shoot good.
Anyway I will work on getting some better photos.
Thanks for all the help.