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bill m · 07-11-2001, 03:39 PM

Hi,

I'd like to know where a lot of the posts are getting the idea that the 1920 commercial Lugers were made up of used Lugers and from used parts? I've read this a couple of times now and I personally think that almost all of the 1920 Commercials were of new manufactor.

If you look at the way the Lugers were made, you will find that what most people call a 1920 Commercial is actually a 1923 commercial. The 5 digit serial numbers were used on the 1908 commercials -- 1913 and 1914 commercials, and then the 1920 commercials. These actually had a 5 digit serial numbers and went up to 1921. We know this because of the Krieghoff commercials in the i block are stamped with the 1921 date. Then the 1923 commercials were actually started up in the i suffix and continued on. These have a 4 digit serial number with a letter suffix. Still in his book "Weimar Lugers" has different names for the variations, but the idea is the same. These 1923 commercials were actually made from 1921 up to possibly 1933. Anyway, they started in the "i" block and went clear up to the "V" block when Mauser started production.

So, in concluding, it would almost be impossible for used parts to be used in what some are calling 1920 commercials, as there were literally thousands of Lugers made before these. If Imperial Lugers were being refurbished on a huge scale, then you should be able to see sign of the Imperial proofs and ect., like you do on the Weimar Police guns, or double dates. These all had military style of serial placement, where the commercial guns have the commercial style. I personally think that almost all of the commercial Lugers were made of new parts and the Weimar military and police guns were almost all made of refurbished Imperial Lugers.

More information has become known since a lot of the older books were published, and everyone agree's that what was referred to as a 1920 commercial a few years ago, is actually a Luger made later, in 1921 to at least 1929 and possible even to 1933. So, I'm not buying that old statement that these 1920's are made up from Imperial guns and ect., as they are in there own suffix blocks. Just my opinion. What ya think?

07-11-2001, 03:39 PM	#1
bill m User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1920 Commercial Lugers Hi, I'd like to know where a lot of the posts are getting the idea that the 1920 commercial Lugers were made up of used Lugers and from used parts? I've read this a couple of times now and I personally think that almost all of the 1920 Commercials were of new manufactor. If you look at the way the Lugers were made, you will find that what most people call a 1920 Commercial is actually a 1923 commercial. The 5 digit serial numbers were used on the 1908 commercials -- 1913 and 1914 commercials, and then the 1920 commercials. These actually had a 5 digit serial numbers and went up to 1921. We know this because of the Krieghoff commercials in the i block are stamped with the 1921 date. Then the 1923 commercials were actually started up in the i suffix and continued on. These have a 4 digit serial number with a letter suffix. Still in his book "Weimar Lugers" has different names for the variations, but the idea is the same. These 1923 commercials were actually made from 1921 up to possibly 1933. Anyway, they started in the "i" block and went clear up to the "V" block when Mauser started production. So, in concluding, it would almost be impossible for used parts to be used in what some are calling 1920 commercials, as there were literally thousands of Lugers made before these. If Imperial Lugers were being refurbished on a huge scale, then you should be able to see sign of the Imperial proofs and ect., like you do on the Weimar Police guns, or double dates. These all had military style of serial placement, where the commercial guns have the commercial style. I personally think that almost all of the commercial Lugers were made of new parts and the Weimar military and police guns were almost all made of refurbished Imperial Lugers. More information has become known since a lot of the older books were published, and everyone agree's that what was referred to as a 1920 commercial a few years ago, is actually a Luger made later, in 1921 to at least 1929 and possible even to 1933. So, I'm not buying that old statement that these 1920's are made up from Imperial guns and ect., as they are in there own suffix blocks. Just my opinion. What ya think?