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Danielharp44022 · 08-08-2005, 12:00 AM

I need some help and after reading your posts for the last couple of weeks I think you are best qualified to help me.

My young son is a WW II history buff, My father served in the 37 Div. and saw action from Guadal Canal to Manila. On a visit to one of my wife's client's she showed my son a Luger that her husband had that was brought back from his father in WW I. She has offered it as a gift to our son, her children would have no apparition of it. My wife and I insist we pay for it and I am seeking it's market value so we can make a proper offer.

Here is the info to go with the pics:

The clips both are wood bottom and one is matched to the gun 7923 the other is 8216 both have + under the number and 8216 has more of a straw color. The grips have a medium feel not smooth and not sharp. The inside left grip is marked 23 and a Z and another mark I can't make out could be an N or H but more like a Pi symbol. The right grip is 23 and the unknown symbol. There is some light rust on the frame of the handle from the clip release to the butt. The right side of the frame handle (as seen with the grips off) has an L or a 7 on the bottom on the trigger side and a J near the bottom of the spring and a capital I and an O near the top of the spring. The left side of the handle frame has an N on the bottom trigger side and a J on the bottom of the spring and an x near the top of the spring. The number on the barrel between the two serial numbers is 8,82 and eagel marking near the top of the base of the barrel is consistent with the marks you show for a 1917 DWM as are figures on the right side above the trigger. The front sight has an N stamped on the bottom of the front of the sight above the barrel opening. The front top of the action that protrudes into the breech has a letter G on the left side of the part that protrudes into the breech that is visible when the action is pulled back. All other numbers are matching 23.

The holster is not in very good shape the strap that goes to the buckle is torn off at the place it would have been buckled. It is stamped inside Liefergs Vereinig d Sattermstr. z. GOTTINGEN 1916. Hand scribed inside the holster is Mo"lius (the quotation mark above the o). There is no tool.

The gun's bluing is worn off at holster contact points, end of barrel sides above the trigger. The action cannot be pulled back when the safety is on and the action will not stay open when pulled back all the way. The inside of the barrel is not shiny as I have seen described by some owners but from what I can see it is riffled.

Thank you all for any information you can provide for both the gun;s value and history.

Danielharp44022

08-08-2005, 12:00 AM	#1
Danielharp44022 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help needed 1917 DWM I need some help and after reading your posts for the last couple of weeks I think you are best qualified to help me. My young son is a WW II history buff, My father served in the 37 Div. and saw action from Guadal Canal to Manila. On a visit to one of my wife's client's she showed my son a Luger that her husband had that was brought back from his father in WW I. She has offered it as a gift to our son, her children would have no apparition of it. My wife and I insist we pay for it and I am seeking it's market value so we can make a proper offer. Here is the info to go with the pics: The clips both are wood bottom and one is matched to the gun 7923 the other is 8216 both have + under the number and 8216 has more of a straw color. The grips have a medium feel not smooth and not sharp. The inside left grip is marked 23 and a Z and another mark I can't make out could be an N or H but more like a Pi symbol. The right grip is 23 and the unknown symbol. There is some light rust on the frame of the handle from the clip release to the butt. The right side of the frame handle (as seen with the grips off) has an L or a 7 on the bottom on the trigger side and a J near the bottom of the spring and a capital I and an O near the top of the spring. The left side of the handle frame has an N on the bottom trigger side and a J on the bottom of the spring and an x near the top of the spring. The number on the barrel between the two serial numbers is 8,82 and eagel marking near the top of the base of the barrel is consistent with the marks you show for a 1917 DWM as are figures on the right side above the trigger. The front sight has an N stamped on the bottom of the front of the sight above the barrel opening. The front top of the action that protrudes into the breech has a letter G on the left side of the part that protrudes into the breech that is visible when the action is pulled back. All other numbers are matching 23. The holster is not in very good shape the strap that goes to the buckle is torn off at the place it would have been buckled. It is stamped inside Liefergs Vereinig d Sattermstr. z. GOTTINGEN 1916. Hand scribed inside the holster is Mo"lius (the quotation mark above the o). There is no tool. The gun's bluing is worn off at holster contact points, end of barrel sides above the trigger. The action cannot be pulled back when the safety is on and the action will not stay open when pulled back all the way. The inside of the barrel is not shiny as I have seen described by some owners but from what I can see it is riffled. Thank you all for any information you can provide for both the gun;s value and history. Danielharp44022