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Unread 06-01-2005, 12:57 PM   #3
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llewdeb,

Welcome to the Lugerforum... As George has pointed out, it is a "parts" Luger, and we could speculate all day, but there is really not much to tell us where and when these parts came together... George's theory is as good as another...

The term "black widow" was coined by a very large dealer in Lugers, and it really has no historical signifigance... It is generally applied to byf marked lugers (mauser manufactured) that are chamber dated either "41" or "42" and have the finely checkered, black bakelite grips... so, in other words, your's is not a "black widow" but likely contains parts from one...

The value of a parts gun is very subjective, and it can range widely from about $350 to 600 or 700 depending on where you find one...

Are the grips checkered? If they are checkered, are the diamonds in neat uniform rows, and a fine border around the edges? Then it is likely they are original German wartime manufacture in 41 or 42... or do they stretch around the curves in a less than uniform manner? Then they are likely Russian replacement grips... another type found on Russian capture Lugers have straight grooves instead of checkering running at the same angle as the grip angle...

Post photos if you get the chance and we can tell you more...
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