[Thor]

Okay Reb, I will give you some relief now! I dont know that 9mm is loaded hotter elsewhere, I will take your word for it that it is. I also will fully agree that the Luger was designed for a hotter round and can normally take it! What I would like to point out it I dont believe the Germans ever had any idea that these guns would be fired as many times as they have been! A gun that is 80 years + and seen many thousand rounds through it is bound to have some metal fatique (repeated cycles of loading and unloading) I just cant see hammering it with original loaded ammo and saying, see it works fine when I have not had ONE, not one Luger through my shop that wouldnt function with std pressure ammo. Is the point to fire a Luger and enjoy it or to continue to stress it to the point that the metal fails. I have had reports from some that the toggle ears were bent from hot ammo. The hotter stuff will eventually also peen the frame "ears" where the toggle knobs cam up to unlock the action. The Luger has one of the strongest lock breech designs ever made, I agree there too. All I am saying is I chose not to fire ammo in the guns when they work perfectly fine with std and even NEW factory replacement springs. You can go on and on and tell me they were designed for hotter ammo, I dont disagree with you, but I simply choose shoot std pressure stuff in mine and my reworks and if I they work for me, what does anybody else care, I am a caretaker of these fine weapons and I just dont see hitting them harder than necessary to make them function. This is my last post on the subject and I respect and APPRECIATE all others that posted especially those that dont agree with me! That is fine and I hope we end this thread friends! I like all here and enjoy the debates. This one for me is finished! Thor