[Kyrie]

Hi HÃ?Â¥kan,


Itâ??s *very* interesting that you should say the current US 9x19 is less than European service ammunition. Iâ??ve heard this many times, but have never been able to find any pressure data to support the assertion. Can you help here, and perhaps provide the service ammunition pressure standards? It would also be nice to know which countryâ??s service standard pressure it may be.


Please donâ??t misunderstand me. Iâ??m aware the C.I.P. standards permit higher pressures for the 9x19 than does SAAMI - Iâ??m curious about military service standards.


Regarding SAAMI lowering the maximum allowable pressure standards, I can share with you if this happened it did so more than 30 years ago (which is how long Iâ??ve had to keep SAAMI standards). Also, there is no US statue requiring imported ammunition to meet SAAMI (or any other) standard. If the European ammunition manufacturers are reducing the maximum allowable pressure of cartridges they export to the US, they are doing so for their own reasons.


The US is a very different place from Europe, in terms of our firearm and ammunition standards. We have no proof laws, and compliance with SAAMI standards is voluntary with no legal penalties for companies who chose not to follow SAAMI standards. All the US produced +P+ (and much of the +P) ammunition is non-compliant with SAAMI. This sometimes horrifies my European friends, but we like it this way


Best regards,


Kyrie