[Herb]

I for one am tired of this discussion. If anyone has evidence that the carbine in the possession of Ralph Shattuck is not authentic, then post your reference or evidence. If not, then let it lie until the facts are in. This whole thread is nothing but a waste of good bandwith that could be beter used discussing Lugers in general. Ralph is not a newbie to this arena, he has been collecting for quite awhile and I am sure that he will let us know the results of the forensic testing. There were over 8 million Lugers produced, surely there were some prototypes in all of that production. Let's wait for the evidence before the jury is called.