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John Sabato · 07-22-2003, 10:58 AM

FWIW, here is the reply from the seller... It contains some speculation but no reference...

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> There is no published reference that I can site about this statement. The owner of the certificate purchased the luger in question about 20 years ago, owned it for about 1 year and sold it, he was also given this certificate at that time. He examined the Luger carefully at that time and specifically recalls now:

1. That it was a Simson rework, as indicated by the proof marks that were stamped on the Luger (which proof marks he then compared to a compendium of Luger proof marks and found those to be of Simson during the early 30s) 2. He was surprised that the lug for attaching the shoulder stock was ground because he had never seen that process before on a German military Luger. 3. He checked several references (books on Luger pistols) and found that that procedure was followed in some cases.

It was clear that the Luger had been factory reblued after the lug was ground off and that this was not some backyard job done by an American after the war with touchup blue. The lug was clearly professionally ground off and refinished. Incidentally, the holster that came with the German Luger was not a standard military holster but a variation of a German police holster without an extra clip pocket.

Thanks for looking, any further questions please ask,
David

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2184362036

> Can you please provide a published reference for your statement regarding the Luger pistol about which this document is concerned?
>
> "This Luger pistol #7528 was a Simson rework; as part of the rebuilding process the German company Simson ground off the stock lug prior to rebluing. Such a procedure was performed on a small number of Luger pistols refurbished and/or rebuilt during the 1930s."
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Sabato
> Site Administrator
> Lugerforum.com <hr /></blockquote>

07-22-2003, 10:58 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	FWIW, here is the reply from the seller... It contains some speculation but no reference... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> There is no published reference that I can site about this statement. The owner of the certificate purchased the luger in question about 20 years ago, owned it for about 1 year and sold it, he was also given this certificate at that time. He examined the Luger carefully at that time and specifically recalls now: 1. That it was a Simson rework, as indicated by the proof marks that were stamped on the Luger (which proof marks he then compared to a compendium of Luger proof marks and found those to be of Simson during the early 30s) 2. He was surprised that the lug for attaching the shoulder stock was ground because he had never seen that process before on a German military Luger. 3. He checked several references (books on Luger pistols) and found that that procedure was followed in some cases. It was clear that the Luger had been factory reblued after the lug was ground off and that this was not some backyard job done by an American after the war with touchup blue. The lug was clearly professionally ground off and refinished. Incidentally, the holster that came with the German Luger was not a standard military holster but a variation of a German police holster without an extra clip pocket. Thanks for looking, any further questions please ask, David ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2184362036 > Can you please provide a published reference for your statement regarding the Luger pistol about which this document is concerned? > > "This Luger pistol #7528 was a Simson rework; as part of the rebuilding process the German company Simson ground off the stock lug prior to rebluing. Such a procedure was performed on a small number of Luger pistols refurbished and/or rebuilt during the 1930s." > > Thanks, > > John Sabato > Site Administrator > Lugerforum.com </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*