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Vlim · 03-18-2003, 08:03 AM

Hi,

I don't have the book with me now. Will check, but consider that there are several prints of the Dutch Luger that contain different layouts (found that one out a few days ago)

Both Martens and De Vries write for a dutch gun magazine called 'SAM magazine'. I believe they are connected to 'S.I. publications'. You can try the email address of that organization:

si@sipublicaties.nl

I've done some new research into the 1945 - 1949 KNIL period and I can confirm that the 'scavenging' scenario was followed by the KNIL when trying to rebuild their forces in 1945.

My M11 fits nicely into that category. As far as I can see now, it was rebuilt from arsenal parts and re-issued in late 1945 to the then-formed 11th Infantry division in the Bali area.

Obtaining luger parts from Germany was an impossibility in that timeframe and it's not surprising to find Dutch lugers that were results of local (indonesian) recovery and scavenging tactics. Lack of 9mm ammunition meant most KNIL lugers didn't see much action anyway.

03-18-2003, 08:03 AM	#39
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, I don't have the book with me now. Will check, but consider that there are several prints of the Dutch Luger that contain different layouts (found that one out a few days ago) Both Martens and De Vries write for a dutch gun magazine called 'SAM magazine'. I believe they are connected to 'S.I. publications'. You can try the email address of that organization: si@sipublicaties.nl I've done some new research into the 1945 - 1949 KNIL period and I can confirm that the 'scavenging' scenario was followed by the KNIL when trying to rebuild their forces in 1945. My M11 fits nicely into that category. As far as I can see now, it was rebuilt from arsenal parts and re-issued in late 1945 to the then-formed 11th Infantry division in the Bali area. Obtaining luger parts from Germany was an impossibility in that timeframe and it's not surprising to find Dutch lugers that were results of local (indonesian) recovery and scavenging tactics. Lack of 9mm ammunition meant most KNIL lugers didn't see much action anyway.