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Heydrich · 07-24-2003, 08:47 PM

Ed, John, I’ve seen numerous examples of these fake stamps being used. The small waffenamt is marked E/63 (Mauser Oberndorf and Brno) and the large one is about the right size for the Kar.98k stock cartouche. But Bubba can be a real dumbass sometimes, so they are generally easy to spot, even if he uses them in the correct manner. The constant mistake I see is him using that large amt to try to fake the military firing proofs on a swapped out barrel of a K, when the Germans used a small proof in RL. This is especially prevalent with fake SS rifles. Bubba will yank off the old barrel (most times you can see the scorch marks on the receiver where he ripped it off), and install a new barrel with fake totes and military proofs. He probably discovers too late that the SS used commercial proofs for all pre-1943 rifles. I once saw a wooden stock were someone had used one of these hokum stamps to burn the cartouche on. That still perplexes me to this day. Besides Numrich, some clown in the Midwest sells E/280 (Erma) and E/140 (FN) stamps, as well as comical totes, but you have to go to a gun show to get these. The fake E/number inspector marks are usually easy to spot as well, unless Bubba has figured out the old trick of inserting some ash or old metal shavings into the new virgin stamp and re-striking it.

Most fakers seem to like to use period parts from several beater rifles to assemble a “matching” one instead of grinding off and re-stamping waffenamts. This however, leads to other comical situations were you can for instance see the hammer marks on the rear sight base. If they are lucky, all they have to do is bugger with a mismatched bolt, but it still seems to take a great deal of skill to get this whole odious process right.

But there is definitely a cottage industry Waffenfabrik USA out there churning out hokum Lugers and K98k rifles at a spurious rate. I haven’t seem them, I’m sure someone has made fake E/655, byf, and 41/42 stamps so everyone and their dog can have a black widow Luger, as well as its cousin the wood-griped Gestapo Luger. One day we’ll probably see a KGB Mosin-Nagant rifle.

Buyer beware!

07-24-2003, 08:47 PM	#4
Heydrich Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, John, I’ve seen numerous examples of these fake stamps being used. The small waffenamt is marked E/63 (Mauser Oberndorf and Brno) and the large one is about the right size for the Kar.98k stock cartouche. But Bubba can be a real dumbass sometimes, so they are generally easy to spot, even if he uses them in the correct manner. The constant mistake I see is him using that large amt to try to fake the military firing proofs on a swapped out barrel of a K, when the Germans used a small proof in RL. This is especially prevalent with fake SS rifles. Bubba will yank off the old barrel (most times you can see the scorch marks on the receiver where he ripped it off), and install a new barrel with fake totes and military proofs. He probably discovers too late that the SS used commercial proofs for all pre-1943 rifles. I once saw a wooden stock were someone had used one of these hokum stamps to burn the cartouche on. That still perplexes me to this day. Besides Numrich, some clown in the Midwest sells E/280 (Erma) and E/140 (FN) stamps, as well as comical totes, but you have to go to a gun show to get these. The fake E/number inspector marks are usually easy to spot as well, unless Bubba has figured out the old trick of inserting some ash or old metal shavings into the new virgin stamp and re-striking it. Most fakers seem to like to use period parts from several beater rifles to assemble a “matching” one instead of grinding off and re-stamping waffenamts. This however, leads to other comical situations were you can for instance see the hammer marks on the rear sight base. If they are lucky, all they have to do is bugger with a mismatched bolt, but it still seems to take a great deal of skill to get this whole odious process right. But there is definitely a cottage industry Waffenfabrik USA out there churning out hokum Lugers and K98k rifles at a spurious rate. I haven’t seem them, I’m sure someone has made fake E/655, byf, and 41/42 stamps so everyone and their dog can have a black widow Luger, as well as its cousin the wood-griped Gestapo Luger. One day we’ll probably see a KGB Mosin-Nagant rifle. Buyer beware!