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Jamka · 07-19-2004, 07:01 PM

Hello Henry,

There were two different manufacturers. The first is AEG / Berlin, recognizable by a hexagon - stamp on top of the lid.
The second is Bing / Neurenberg, they used a logo of a 'B' above a 'N', separated by a '-', you will find it both on top and on the bottom.

There are two types, as Norm said. The first has a handle in the form of a small tube, you can pull out a rod in order to load the spring. this type has a flat bottom, and only one cicular ring on top.
The second type has a 'fold - out' handle. Here, on the bottom you see two concentric rings as a reinforcement, on the top again just one, but broader and flat in the middle.

Take attention to the Serial Numbers. The # on top should match the # on the bottom.

Try to wind up the spring. Attention, you could hurt yourself if you let the handle slip of. At 360 degrees, you can lock the handle by pushing the button down into the locking slide.

To load the cardridges without the loading tool,
you need a solid old fashioned pencil, or a similar sized wooden rod. Use the flat down side of it to push the top-cardridge down (on the lowest side of the magazine-bar, in between of the lips) and put the next cardridge in untill you touch the pencil. Use the pencil again to push the cardridge nicely in its place, pushing on top of the bullet. Repeat untill you meet too much resistance.

I could load in this way 26 rounds (but now I have the loading device - happy me). Getting the rounds out of the drum is also quite an operation. You will need someone to hold the drum, while you push with the pencil on the top cardridge just to compensate the pressure, and with a second, small rod, you push the round forward. Attention, these rounds can be damaged, examine carefully before using in any pistol.

Hope this helps.
Good luck.

07-19-2004, 07:01 PM	#5
Jamka RIP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Antwerp Belgium Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Hello Henry, There were two different manufacturers. The first is AEG / Berlin, recognizable by a hexagon - stamp on top of the lid. The second is Bing / Neurenberg, they used a logo of a 'B' above a 'N', separated by a '-', you will find it both on top and on the bottom. There are two types, as Norm said. The first has a handle in the form of a small tube, you can pull out a rod in order to load the spring. this type has a flat bottom, and only one cicular ring on top. The second type has a 'fold - out' handle. Here, on the bottom you see two concentric rings as a reinforcement, on the top again just one, but broader and flat in the middle. Take attention to the Serial Numbers. The # on top should match the # on the bottom. Try to wind up the spring. Attention, you could hurt yourself if you let the handle slip of. At 360 degrees, you can lock the handle by pushing the button down into the locking slide. To load the cardridges without the loading tool, you need a solid old fashioned pencil, or a similar sized wooden rod. Use the flat down side of it to push the top-cardridge down (on the lowest side of the magazine-bar, in between of the lips) and put the next cardridge in untill you touch the pencil. Use the pencil again to push the cardridge nicely in its place, pushing on top of the bullet. Repeat untill you meet too much resistance. I could load in this way 26 rounds (but now I have the loading device - happy me). Getting the rounds out of the drum is also quite an operation. You will need someone to hold the drum, while you push with the pencil on the top cardridge just to compensate the pressure, and with a second, small rod, you push the round forward. Attention, these rounds can be damaged, examine carefully before using in any pistol. Hope this helps. Good luck. __________________ Joop