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George Anderson · 07-01-2004, 10:31 PM

I hope I don't come across as an a-hole but, a few notes on snails...

My dear friend Ed Sayre spent years studying the Tmag and LP08s in order to write THE BOOK on the subject. I collaborated with him in this endeavor over the last four years. Ed died last year.

Although there were three identified makers of thr t-mag there were only two who made it; the brothers Bing in Nurnberg who were world renowned toy makers, and AEG in Berlin who manufactured electrical stuff. The third supposed maker was in Koln and no example of his production has ever been seen.

Ed Sayre felt strongly that the so-called unloader was strictly a post 1918 police device. All examples he examined were modified loaders and he figured it was for post war police use, probably with the MP18 submachinegun. Only the police would need to be able to quietly unload these mags when they returned from their police rounds. A trooper in the trenches would either not unload or simply unload in the enemy's direction.

There were both a type I and a type II but these are collector designations and not German and not all encompassing as there are "subvariations" among what are called the type II's.

Ed's book was pretty much completed at the time of his death. It was just waiting for a publisher.

I have been in touch with Ed's family and there is a chance that the book will go forward. I hope so.

07-01-2004, 10:31 PM	#7
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	I hope I don't come across as an a-hole but, a few notes on snails... My dear friend Ed Sayre spent years studying the Tmag and LP08s in order to write THE BOOK on the subject. I collaborated with him in this endeavor over the last four years. Ed died last year. Although there were three identified makers of thr t-mag there were only two who made it; the brothers Bing in Nurnberg who were world renowned toy makers, and AEG in Berlin who manufactured electrical stuff. The third supposed maker was in Koln and no example of his production has ever been seen. Ed Sayre felt strongly that the so-called unloader was strictly a post 1918 police device. All examples he examined were modified loaders and he figured it was for post war police use, probably with the MP18 submachinegun. Only the police would need to be able to quietly unload these mags when they returned from their police rounds. A trooper in the trenches would either not unload or simply unload in the enemy's direction. There were both a type I and a type II but these are collector designations and not German and not all encompassing as there are "subvariations" among what are called the type II's. Ed's book was pretty much completed at the time of his death. It was just waiting for a publisher. I have been in touch with Ed's family and there is a chance that the book will go forward. I hope so.