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doppelganger · 01-21-2003, 05:59 PM

WOW!!!
Thanks Lonnie, WR, Bill Tom A. and Tony S. I never expected such a rapid and detailed response.

As you have noticed, I am new on this forum and trying to find my way around. I thought I could just insert photos into this response (like email) but found that to be not so. After finishing this text response to your questions, I will attempt to upload several photos.

1. The recorder I traded for this Luger was a reel to reel Taberg. Yes, I think I get the better of the deal.

2. The caliber is 9mm with a barrel length of 3.965 inches as measured with a Micrometer.

3. The serial number is 2243 found in three places; on the underside of the barrel near the frame; on the left side of the frame and on the front of the frame under the barrel.

4. The number 8,82. is found under the barrel between the serial number and the frame.

5. There is a capital S (not a Gothic Fraktur)in five places: on the front of the trigger guard; right side of the trigger; top of the toggle near the rear sight; middle section of the toggle; top of the extractor;

6. On the front grip frame is O.1768

7. There is a S43 on the trigger plate, locking bolt, safety lever top of the extractor and trigger bar.

8. The letter K is found on top of the chamber.

9. An eagle over a blocked letter M is found on the left side of the frame.

10. Geladen is found on the left side of the extractor.

11. Top center section of the toggle has S/42.

12. Proof marks: The right side of the barrel and right side of the frame have a proof mark resembling the Proof Category 4, third from the left. The left side of the barrel has a proof mark resembling the Proof Category 4, first example on the left. The right side of the barrel appears to have two identical proof marks resembling the Proof Category 4, first example on the left (two dots over an elongated O with the number 37).

13. Magazine #1 with an aluminum base and blued metal carries a serial number on the base of 7892 and a scripted letter m. In two places on one side (top and bottom) is two sets of horizontal lines depicting an eagle with the number 37 under the lines. On the obverse side is the number 122.

14. Magazine #2 with a black plastic base and blued metal carries an etched number of 9438 on one side. On the opposite side in two places (top and bottom) is the same stylized eagle with the number 37 under the lines. At the bottom of this side if found fxo and P.08. One cartridge remains in this magazine and is marked as: 12 42 kam st+.

15. The holster has a large S interwoven into the smaller letters LA with the date 1939 found directly under the letters. The spread eagle to the right of the letters and date is hard to read but the letters under the eagle appear to be WaA on the left and CO or OO on the right. The inside flap of the holster has an inked name of Klittch perhaps the previous German owner.

16. I have been in possession of this weapon since approximately 1963 and have fired no more than a dozen rounds in these many years. I have done nothing to it but clean and admire it as a piece of history and mechanical art. I would guess that it has never been reblued or restored in any way. Wear is primarily on the muzzle and trigger plate where it rubbed in the holster. I must admit that I have no experience in judging quality and am only guessing as to the bluing remaining of 90% to 95% and straw remaining of 85% to 95%. I leave that evaluation to the experts.

The weapon was liberated by the older brother of a friend of mine. He said that he never shot it. When I first obtained it, it still had four rounds of German ammo in the magazine. Over the years, I have given three of the rounds to collectors.

I will attempt to upload several pictures (as soon as I figure it out) later this evening on perhaps tomorrow.

Resized by EBT:

Large Versions Here:
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-date-Navy-1.jpg
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-2.jpg
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-3.jpg
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-4.jpg

Thanks again for so many and informative responses.

Chuck

01-21-2003, 05:59 PM	#7
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WOW!!! Thanks Lonnie, WR, Bill Tom A. and Tony S. I never expected such a rapid and detailed response. As you have noticed, I am new on this forum and trying to find my way around. I thought I could just insert photos into this response (like email) but found that to be not so. After finishing this text response to your questions, I will attempt to upload several photos. 1. The recorder I traded for this Luger was a reel to reel Taberg. Yes, I think I get the better of the deal. 2. The caliber is 9mm with a barrel length of 3.965 inches as measured with a Micrometer. 3. The serial number is 2243 found in three places; on the underside of the barrel near the frame; on the left side of the frame and on the front of the frame under the barrel. 4. The number 8,82. is found under the barrel between the serial number and the frame. 5. There is a capital S (not a Gothic Fraktur)in five places: on the front of the trigger guard; right side of the trigger; top of the toggle near the rear sight; middle section of the toggle; top of the extractor; 6. On the front grip frame is O.1768 7. There is a S43 on the trigger plate, locking bolt, safety lever top of the extractor and trigger bar. 8. The letter K is found on top of the chamber. 9. An eagle over a blocked letter M is found on the left side of the frame. 10. Geladen is found on the left side of the extractor. 11. Top center section of the toggle has S/42. 12. Proof marks: The right side of the barrel and right side of the frame have a proof mark resembling the Proof Category 4, third from the left. The left side of the barrel has a proof mark resembling the Proof Category 4, first example on the left. The right side of the barrel appears to have two identical proof marks resembling the Proof Category 4, first example on the left (two dots over an elongated O with the number 37). 13. Magazine #1 with an aluminum base and blued metal carries a serial number on the base of 7892 and a scripted letter m. In two places on one side (top and bottom) is two sets of horizontal lines depicting an eagle with the number 37 under the lines. On the obverse side is the number 122. 14. Magazine #2 with a black plastic base and blued metal carries an etched number of 9438 on one side. On the opposite side in two places (top and bottom) is the same stylized eagle with the number 37 under the lines. At the bottom of this side if found fxo and P.08. One cartridge remains in this magazine and is marked as: 12 42 kam st+. 15. The holster has a large S interwoven into the smaller letters LA with the date 1939 found directly under the letters. The spread eagle to the right of the letters and date is hard to read but the letters under the eagle appear to be WaA on the left and CO or OO on the right. The inside flap of the holster has an inked name of Klittch perhaps the previous German owner. 16. I have been in possession of this weapon since approximately 1963 and have fired no more than a dozen rounds in these many years. I have done nothing to it but clean and admire it as a piece of history and mechanical art. I would guess that it has never been reblued or restored in any way. Wear is primarily on the muzzle and trigger plate where it rubbed in the holster. I must admit that I have no experience in judging quality and am only guessing as to the bluing remaining of 90% to 95% and straw remaining of 85% to 95%. I leave that evaluation to the experts. The weapon was liberated by the older brother of a friend of mine. He said that he never shot it. When I first obtained it, it still had four rounds of German ammo in the magazine. Over the years, I have given three of the rounds to collectors. I will attempt to upload several pictures (as soon as I figure it out) later this evening on perhaps tomorrow. Resized by EBT: Large Versions Here: http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-date-Navy-1.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-2.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-3.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/K-Date-Navy-4.jpg Thanks again for so many and informative responses. Chuck