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Unread 01-01-2003, 05:02 PM   #5
Dwight Gruber
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[quote]Originally posted by G. van Vlimmeren:
<strong>Just out of curiosity: What parts originally formed your Dutch M11 Mix?</strong><hr></blockquote>

FrankenVickers: a frame in the KOL serial range; a DWM commercial receiver (with P-08-style, relieved sear bar); a barrel of unkown manufacture; a Vickers toggle train. Also has poor black after-market grips.

RealVickers: a frame in the Vickers serial range; a receiver with proper sear bar but with left-side proof sanded away; a number-matching barrel with proper Vickers/English markings (but rebarrelled to the receiver, as the witness mark reveals); a DWM toggle train with proper extractor and appropriate Dutch number stampings. Left grip is coarse-checkered, native-wood Colonial manufacture in the Vickers number range, right grip is normal-checker in the KOL number range.

Luger interiors, in general, are covered with cryptic markings. The Vickers has Circle-N, Circle-S, J, under the grip IV (Roman numeral 4), other markings I can't interpret.

The KOL frame has the same Circle-S in the same place (in back of the trigger, hidden by the trigger plate); oddly, it is devoid of other markings, although the frame under the grips is pretty heavily rust-pitted which would obscure anything which might have been there.

G�¶rtz & Bryan "German Small Arms Marking" translation of the instructions for marking the P-08 notes (p 114) the permissable application of "Worker Stamps", Roman letters B through Z of specific sizes (A is specifically excluded, reserved for rejected parts as explained later in the text). I have not seen an explanation of the more cryptic markings.

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