As an explanation of these discussions, I believe them to be on topic as they are intended to give reason to the description and identification of the subject Proxibid pistol.
Dwight, in reference to your Post #15, please explain how you interpret my quote "There are OTHER 1908 COMMERCIALS that are NOT the EXACT clone of the P.08; barrel length, caliber, American Eagle, etc…" as referring to a P.08. I gave an example of an O8C, to use your reference, having all three exceptions to a P.08. There is no reference to a P.08 having an AE over the chamber. The frame is 100% the same as a P.08, only the barrel differs. When referring to it I will say "near" and will expect a reasonable listener to understand my reference.
From your Post #16 you make it clear that your opposition to a date as a designation of model or variation is based on a personal bias and not convention, convention is where all this comes from. There is no arbiter in matters of convention when it comes to designating Luger models or variations. It is conforming to convention that makes possible the conveying of ideas. Bucking convention only leads to confusion. I'm not saying one has to agree with it. As an example,trying to correct an obvious error in identification 27 years ago bucked convention and still, after 27 years, leads to confusion and has to be explained every time it's used in place of the conventional terms. I'm not taking a position for or against the attempted change, I'm just saying one cannot buck convention, especially with bias. The erroneous term "Black Widow", a marketing term, has become part of the Lexicon through convention, let's see someone try to change that.
By the way, as to saying there is no 1914 Commercial, convention says there is.
Respectfully to Dwight and all Forum readers.
Jack
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