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Unread 09-04-2017, 10:37 PM   #9
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My standard advice for newer collectors is to buy a "shooter", around $1,000 and a book like "Lugers at Random" which can be had used for $50 or so. This will introduce you to the pistol and provide useful learning. When a new collector insists on better, I then advise not spend more than $1,400 to minimize the chance of an expensive mistake.

I would pass on both your linked pistols and advise a book and patience in finding either a shooter or lower-end collectible.
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