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Edward Tinker · 08-28-2016, 05:26 PM

as Don said above, but I read your posting on calguns (not a member) and apologize for your difficulty on coming on-board.

anyway, let me throw out some info

Original lugers were in the 1900 (dished toggles) design, then went to the 1906 design (military did not want the grip safety, so it went away, along with changing them to 9mm)

* it is a 1906 'model' - I think the sn was 40K? - will go look, probably 1910, 1911 - Dwight has a better idea

*Your is a 7.65mm (30 Luger) - magazines will work for the guns in either caliber
*The American eagle (AE) was a marketing ploy for the USA, although the importer (Tauscher in New York) imported them for Canada and for Mexico also, but without the AE -Same, simply the eagle, otherwise no change from a non-eagle
*the bore-to-bore marking is like you said; 171xxx and actually isn't bore to bore, for the 30 lugr it was how many to a pound, like a black powder (I will have to look that one up in the FAQ)
* B WAS for Brazil, it was an over-run of barrels and they simply used them - no other reason than using extra parts from another contract
*numbers covered up by parts are referred to as 'worker marks' and mean nothing except to show who was working on it or had worked on it
*Normal cleaning such as oil and 0000 steel or bronze wool work great, never ever over clean. Less is best, so a rag and oil
*this is a commercial version, and the last two of the serial number are on the bottoms or not on parts. Military versions the sn are in the open, we call that commercial or hidden serial numbers.
*see the BUG proof markings - that is simply the inspector markings - each acceptance - proof (totally different things) - so someone assigned the letter B accepted it as good to part at that stage - then U - although maybe not in that order, the final FIRING proof is the PROOF EAGLE and showwed it passed the test firing of an over-proof load and was good to go.
* NOTE the GERMANY stamping -this is technically an EXPORT stamping and not what many folks call an import stamp, it was required that items be stamped as country of origin.
--do not dismantle more than a basic cleaning IMHO

hope that helped, that is from the top of my head...

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	as Don said above, but I read your posting on calguns (not a member) and apologize for your difficulty on coming on-board. anyway, let me throw out some info Original lugers were in the 1900 (dished toggles) design, then went to the 1906 design (military did not want the grip safety, so it went away, along with changing them to 9mm) * it is a 1906 'model' - I think the sn was 40K? - will go look, probably 1910, 1911 - Dwight has a better idea Your is a 7.65mm (30 Luger) - magazines will work for the guns in either caliber The American eagle (AE) was a marketing ploy for the USA, although the importer (Tauscher in New York) imported them for Canada and for Mexico also, but without the AE -Same, simply the eagle, otherwise no change from a non-eagle the bore-to-bore marking is like you said; 171xxx and actually isn't bore to bore, for the 30 lugr it was how many to a pound, like a black powder (I will have to look that one up in the FAQ) B WAS for Brazil, it was an over-run of barrels and they simply used them - no other reason than using extra parts from another contract numbers covered up by parts are referred to as 'worker marks' and mean nothing except to show who was working on it or had worked on it Normal cleaning such as oil and 0000 steel or bronze wool work great, never ever over clean. Less is best, so a rag and oil this is a commercial version, and the last two of the serial number are on the bottoms or not on parts. Military versions the sn are in the open, we call that commercial or hidden serial numbers. see the BUG proof markings - that is simply the inspector markings - each acceptance - proof (totally different things) - so someone assigned the letter B accepted it as good to part at that stage - then U - although maybe not in that order, the final FIRING proof is the PROOF EAGLE and showwed it passed the test firing of an over-proof load and was good to go. * NOTE the GERMANY stamping -this is technically an EXPORT stamping and not what many folks call an import stamp, it was required that items be stamped as country of origin. --do not dismantle more than a basic cleaning IMHO hope that helped, that is from the top of my head... Welcome to the Forum!! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV Last edited by Edward Tinker; 08-28-2016 at 06:22 PM.