[Edward Tinker]

ViggoG, I think Pete was talking about some guys off line he had talked to.

I agree, that hand machining is far better than some give them credit for. My dad used to work on old linotype machines, all from before 1915, I went with him to a small newspaper printer in Benton, WA, and they were works of art as they made the linotype, pouring hot lead into the holder, making the words, then printing the paper. Very cool and the point is that old machines and tolerances were tight, so it is hard to believe that those old craftsman couln't make a 45 carbine if they wanted to.