I use an OAL of 1.155-1.165 with that Hornady 86gr .308 bullet. I try to load it as long as possible and still function in my mags, and the chambers. The Fiocchi 30 Luger ammo uses a much shorter OAL due to their bullet profile. Also, Fiocchi uses a roll crimp into their bullet cannalure which can not be done in the 30 Mauser bullet(too long of an OAL).
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