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alvin · 12-16-2013, 05:46 PM

OK. I take it as a quiz.

First things first, looking at this shape, #5585 cannot be Spanish. And looking at this making quality, it cannot be a Chinese copy. It's German for sure.

#5585, not on chamber, but numbered on the receiver's locking lug, then it's before 1899 Italian Navy. Why? Starting from Italian Navy, receiver number was moved to chamber.

What's before Italian Navy? Conehammers were before Italian, Early Large Rings were before Italian too. A few German Test Large Rings were also before Italian. But German Test ones were separately numbered, low s/n stuffs, it could not go as high as #5585, so that possibility can be phased out easily. Early Large Rings were after s/n 12000, they could not have #5585 on receiver. So the only possibility is Conehammer #5585. Then, checking the cutout at the under rear end of the receiver, looking at that sight leaf installation holes... yeah, it's a Conehammer receiver fitting 1-10 sight leaf. From s/n, to s/n location, to features, everything matches conehammer's pattern, then it's conehammer.

The year.... Mauser sold 2375 C96 pistols in 1897. Could #5585 be made in 1897?? Not impossible, but unlikely. Why? Those Turkish C96 were delivered in early 1898. This one should be made after the Turkish. Another 7975 pistols were sold in 1898. Most likely, #5585 was one of them.

12-16-2013, 05:46 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	OK. I take it as a quiz. First things first, looking at this shape, #5585 cannot be Spanish. And looking at this making quality, it cannot be a Chinese copy. It's German for sure. #5585, not on chamber, but numbered on the receiver's locking lug, then it's before 1899 Italian Navy. Why? Starting from Italian Navy, receiver number was moved to chamber. What's before Italian Navy? Conehammers were before Italian, Early Large Rings were before Italian too. A few German Test Large Rings were also before Italian. But German Test ones were separately numbered, low s/n stuffs, it could not go as high as #5585, so that possibility can be phased out easily. Early Large Rings were after s/n 12000, they could not have #5585 on receiver. So the only possibility is Conehammer #5585. Then, checking the cutout at the under rear end of the receiver, looking at that sight leaf installation holes... yeah, it's a Conehammer receiver fitting 1-10 sight leaf. From s/n, to s/n location, to features, everything matches conehammer's pattern, then it's conehammer. The year.... Mauser sold 2375 C96 pistols in 1897. Could #5585 be made in 1897?? Not impossible, but unlikely. Why? Those Turkish C96 were delivered in early 1898. This one should be made after the Turkish. Another 7975 pistols were sold in 1898. Most likely, #5585 was one of them.