Thanks Dan & Jerry, but...I almost forgot what i was leading to?? Anyway... just a little more... when Haneal (sp.??) got the idea to improve the Luger mag.. they did a pretty good job right off the start by eliminating the seam... Got rid of a bunch of issues right there... But, still soft steel, still over worked spring, although not quite as bad with the box design .. and still a bad angle for any mag to work at... just the nature of the beast.. Now, that being said, you take a crisp as new Luger, and an as new mag... and the right ammo, I would bet you'd have one hell of a time making it quit???!!!! The Luger can run right with the best of them... as a case in point, we came pretty close to just that in the 1907 tests for the .45 cal 1911....

..Best to all, til...lat'r...GT