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tom · 03-13-2002, 11:28 AM

The following taxonomy defines Navy Lugers to most of us who are "in to" them

1. Type 04. The original with the toggle lock, no date on the chamber and has a grip safety. Very rare and very expensive. Most are fakes.

2. Type 06. Toggle lock is gone, grip safety remains. There are 2 subvariations: Altered, in which the safety lever is activated by pivoting it to the rear of the pistol; and, Unaltered, in which the safety lever is activated by pivoting it forward towards the muzzle. May or may not be marked on rear grip strap with unit property markings (II S.B.=second see battalion)

3. Type 08. Incorporates as standard the Altered configuration for the safety lever and the grip safety is gone. There is no date on the chamber. A subvariation is the commercial 4" bbl P-08 pistols pressed into service which are identical to commercial P-08s in every respect except the Crown M proof that is typically found on the left side of the barrel extension. May or may not be unit marked

4. Type 14. Same as type 08 except chamber is dated. Very few are unit marked.

5. Commercial. May be of type 06, 08 or 14 but proofed in commercial style and marked Germany.

6. Weimar Navys. May be shortened (4") barrel version of any previously mentioned variant or a P-08 assembled with the 4" bbl. Typically marked on Grip strap with an Anchor and capital M. Many have unit property markings.

7. Kreigsmarine navys. These pistols are the K, G and dated chamber versions manufactured by Mauser and marked with the S/42, 42, and byf codes. (I have seen a banner marked pistol that was Navy marked but doubt its authenticity.) Kreigsmarine pistols will be marked with an N on the rear grip strap followed by a number to indicate Nordsee Flotte property or with an O and property number on the inner grip strap to indicate Ostsee Flotte property.

There may be other variants, but I am unaware of them.

I am writing this from memory, 3500 miles away from my Navys and reference books, so if I omitted something or made a mistake, please excuse me.

Tom

03-13-2002, 11:28 AM	#7
tom User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Navy Luger Variants The following taxonomy defines Navy Lugers to most of us who are "in to" them 1. Type 04. The original with the toggle lock, no date on the chamber and has a grip safety. Very rare and very expensive. Most are fakes. 2. Type 06. Toggle lock is gone, grip safety remains. There are 2 subvariations: Altered, in which the safety lever is activated by pivoting it to the rear of the pistol; and, Unaltered, in which the safety lever is activated by pivoting it forward towards the muzzle. May or may not be marked on rear grip strap with unit property markings (II S.B.=second see battalion) 3. Type 08. Incorporates as standard the Altered configuration for the safety lever and the grip safety is gone. There is no date on the chamber. A subvariation is the commercial 4" bbl P-08 pistols pressed into service which are identical to commercial P-08s in every respect except the Crown M proof that is typically found on the left side of the barrel extension. May or may not be unit marked 4. Type 14. Same as type 08 except chamber is dated. Very few are unit marked. 5. Commercial. May be of type 06, 08 or 14 but proofed in commercial style and marked Germany. 6. Weimar Navys. May be shortened (4") barrel version of any previously mentioned variant or a P-08 assembled with the 4" bbl. Typically marked on Grip strap with an Anchor and capital M. Many have unit property markings. 7. Kreigsmarine navys. These pistols are the K, G and dated chamber versions manufactured by Mauser and marked with the S/42, 42, and byf codes. (I have seen a banner marked pistol that was Navy marked but doubt its authenticity.) Kreigsmarine pistols will be marked with an N on the rear grip strap followed by a number to indicate Nordsee Flotte property or with an O and property number on the inner grip strap to indicate Ostsee Flotte property. There may be other variants, but I am unaware of them. I am writing this from memory, 3500 miles away from my Navys and reference books, so if I omitted something or made a mistake, please excuse me. Tom