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Originally Posted by Jack Lawman
Not comparing Glock's "safeaction" to either double action (DA) or single action (SA). It's a hybrid. It's like a SA because each and every trigger pull is the same (first to last). It's like a DA because although the striker is "preloaded", you still need to move it back further with the trigger pull. The best comparison would be to a double only pistol such as S&W 5946 or the NYPD version of the Sig P226 (double only). Difference is longer trigger pull and exposed hammer moving in your sight picture. Neither of those double onlys has an external safety. Individual officers vary, but most shoot and like the Glock better. Brass wants consistent trigger pull, and you can't argue with brass... even if you win, you lose.
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You're exactly right and I do know how a Glock works, but what you said in your previous post was that you won't lose any time manipulating the safety on a Glock, you just pull it and shoot it. What I'm saying is that if you don't use the safety on a gun that has one, you won't lose any time either. Just like you said about the Glock, you just pull it and shoot it. In other words: My point is that if you want to compare how safe and quick the Glock is compared with other guns, you need to compare them as being in at least somewhat similar condition. And I sure hope that the "bad cops" you're talking about don't carry their guns "cocked and unlocked"...
By the way: The only good thing about the Glock trigger is that it's consistent. On the other hand, it's also consistently rough, gritty and almost toy-like, and a buddy of mine compared it with rolling a box up a hill that has a sudden drop where you least expect it. This is of course an exaggerated tounge-in-cheek comment but personally, I can shoot much better with a heavier and longer trigger pull as long as it's smooth.
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Originally Posted by Jack Lawman
I wasn't referencing average citizens or new shooters. My post was specific to LEO's and supposed at least minimal regular training.
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My comment to your post was actually in agreement with what you said, what I wanted to point out is that Glock is not as safe as people say it is unless you are well trained on this particular gun. If a gun requires a lot of training and practice to be operated in a safe manner, I would say that it's less safe than guns that require less training and practice. There is a place and a use for Glocks, but it's still too easy for private gun owners to think that Glocks are superior because so many LEO's use them. I guess my bottom line is that I'm afraid that too many fall in that trap.