Hi Bill, Just to be clear, when the word Gesichert is exposed, the gun is on safe, when it is covered by the lever, the gun is ready to fire. The order to change all Navy guns to be on safe with the lever in the down position was given on Jun 22nd 1912. All Army P08's were made this way, so they never had to be changed. Only a few Navy guns that were overseas escaped the conversion, and existing examples are quite rare. I can't help you with commercial guns, perhaps someone else can chip in. Regards, Norm
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