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Unread 07-20-2011, 11:35 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by goldwing View Post
MFC, I recall reading that there were 5000 P-08 and 1000 LP-08 guns in the Persian contract. However, my memory is not as good as it once was (I am 77) and the data may have been faulty. Therefore your figures may be correct. Bill
Bill,

In Joop and Don's new book they describe the final Persian Contract signed in 1936 as follows:

3000 P.08s serial numbered from 1-3000.
1000 LP.08s serial numbered 3001-4000

Now, there are also 50 cutaways numbered 1-50. I am not sure they are included in the 3000 production of P.08s or are a separate series.

My pieces seem to fall into this range.

Cutaway is SN 37
P.08 is SN 2836
LP.08 is SN 3871

Haven't sold any Persians and the acquisition of my three guns was done long enough ago as to not necessarily be relevant to today's market.

However, I can offer some data for what its worth.

All three pieces are high finish guns, all matching. The P.08 and the LP.08 are full rigs with holster, matching magazines and proper tool. The LP.08 has three matching magazines, two of which are in the strap mounted magazine pouch and the P.08 has the normal 2. The cutaway is a standalone gun with a matching magazine. No other accoutrements as you would expect in a piece that was solely used for instructional purposes.

If we take the P.08 rig price as 1.00, the cutaway was 0.70, and the LP.08 Rig was 0.60.

Thus strange as it may seem, a complete LP.08 rig cost me 60 percent of what I willingly paid for a complete P.08 rig. Now there were a few years between the purchases (the LP.08 rig was the later).

Have no idea whether or not this data is significant but it is what it is. But it seems to corroborate George's data that Persian P.08s sell for more than LP.08s even though three times more of them were made.

Hope this helps.

John
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