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bill m · 02-11-2002, 05:55 PM

Hi Tom,

I personally find your comments ridicious. You can make an issue out of just about anything, but to suggest that any Luger collector, by collecting Third Reich stuff, is agreeing with the views of the Nazi's and is glorifing the Nazi period is just down right stupid!

This is a part of our history, and world history. To even suggest that by owning a weapon with the Eagle Swastika on it is an admission of support for the Nazi view point is just a mute point to start an arguement. One can collect Nazi items as well as Japanese items and despise what they did and stood for, but still admire the weapon itself and the history involved with it. To own a Nazi flag does not make me a Nazi lover. To own an SS dagger does not make me a SS lover. Most collectors do this as a hobby and try to acquire the best example available,(that is called pride) not because they agree with what the Nazi flag stood for, but because it is a part of the history they are collecting. If anything, it reminds most collectors of just how awful this period of time was. But it happened and to ignore it and pretend it did not happen and throw away everything associatied with it, as well as condemn anyone who speaks of it, it totally wrong also. There are two sides to this issue also and you must be able to look at a collection or display and admire it for the effort that it took to put it together and the quality of the items, and not instantly associate the owner to being a Nazi, as that is really narrow minded.

My suggestion to all that want to associate a WWII Third Reich collector with being a Nazi and ect., is to go collect something else besides Lugers. As far as I'm concerned, you should be smart enough to tell the difference between what is history, what is being collected for a hobby and for future fiancial gain, and what is being done for pure propaganda, hate, and attention. I'm not ashamed to collect Third Reich Lugers, have a Nazi battle flag, an SS dagger, and try to understand the history behind each item. Glorification -- not at all, but I do have pride in the quality of items that I collect. Sorry, but I think you're way off base here with your post!

02-11-2002, 05:55 PM	#4
bill m User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Admiration vs. Glorification Hi Tom, I personally find your comments ridicious. You can make an issue out of just about anything, but to suggest that any Luger collector, by collecting Third Reich stuff, is agreeing with the views of the Nazi's and is glorifing the Nazi period is just down right stupid! This is a part of our history, and world history. To even suggest that by owning a weapon with the Eagle Swastika on it is an admission of support for the Nazi view point is just a mute point to start an arguement. One can collect Nazi items as well as Japanese items and despise what they did and stood for, but still admire the weapon itself and the history involved with it. To own a Nazi flag does not make me a Nazi lover. To own an SS dagger does not make me a SS lover. Most collectors do this as a hobby and try to acquire the best example available,(that is called pride) not because they agree with what the Nazi flag stood for, but because it is a part of the history they are collecting. If anything, it reminds most collectors of just how awful this period of time was. But it happened and to ignore it and pretend it did not happen and throw away everything associatied with it, as well as condemn anyone who speaks of it, it totally wrong also. There are two sides to this issue also and you must be able to look at a collection or display and admire it for the effort that it took to put it together and the quality of the items, and not instantly associate the owner to being a Nazi, as that is really narrow minded. My suggestion to all that want to associate a WWII Third Reich collector with being a Nazi and ect., is to go collect something else besides Lugers. As far as I'm concerned, you should be smart enough to tell the difference between what is history, what is being collected for a hobby and for future fiancial gain, and what is being done for pure propaganda, hate, and attention. I'm not ashamed to collect Third Reich Lugers, have a Nazi battle flag, an SS dagger, and try to understand the history behind each item. Glorification -- not at all, but I do have pride in the quality of items that I collect. Sorry, but I think you're way off base here with your post!