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Unread 03-16-2011, 03:30 PM   #15
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John, I have edited some of the photos you sent me. There is no question in my mind that the frame, receiver and barrel are from an Erfurt and that the entire toggle train has been replaced with one from DWM. The serial numbers on the toggle train appear to be force matched. The grip strap marking is definitely from the Mannheim Schupo. The "a" is distinctive and characteristic of others from this unit and the marking is stamped in reverse of Prussian markings. This is the first example of a P08 with Ma. markings that does not have a circled-S on the left side of the receiver.

The holster is typical of the WWI military holsters that were converted for police use but the markings inside the cover are quite interesting. I'm virtually certain one of the markings is St. Pol. Sd. which I interpret as Staatliche Polizei Stralsund. This may have been a Gestapo marking from the early 1930s. The other marking appears to be L.G. This is somewhat puzzling to me. I'm tempted to interpret it as Landesgendarmerie but I have never seen this marking on holsters originally manufactured for P08s.

I do not believe this holster saw service with this pistol. The holster appears to have northern Germany markings while the pistol is from the south.
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Last edited by Don M; 03-23-2011 at 11:25 AM. Reason: Deleted comment about possible correlation between circled-S marking and DWM.
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