[John Sabato]

Both of these guns look legitimate to me, but of course without lots more photos, I can't say that for sure.

The photos of the barrel marking have too much glare to read the entire inscription, but the marking in general is uniform in nature and looks stamped on, and does not look pantographed or engraved.

Any value created by making these two guns "look" like a couple of the elusive early "French" guns would be offset by what it would have cost to create the required stamping punch...

Previous guns with barrels marked in this manner have passed through this forum before. The story as I recall it from memory, was that the guns were marked as though they were manufactured in France (a bicycle manufacturer, if I remember correctly), because at the time they were produced, the sale of German firearms was prohibited in France. The guns were actually of DWM manufacture, but were marked like this on the barrel to give the false impression that they were made in France.

Someone who is a member of this forum is an owner of one of these "French" Luger pistols, but I can't remember who.

It would be interesting to do a quality photo essay comparison between the guns we have seen before, and these guns.

I can't comment of the quality or age of the case... not my area of knowledge or expertise...

Until shown to be real "fakes" (oxymoron)... and not just one of the original "French" pistols that I have described, I would have to give these two pistols the benefit of the doubt on their originality.

I am very curious as to how this unusual shoulder stock attaches to either of these pistols. I don't get the "hook" ???