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1969goatman · 02-27-2011, 03:40 PM

I don't understand the question. The Germans went to 9mm not .30 caliber. The original cartridge for the Luger was 7.65mm (.30 cal) and when they went into competition for the US Army trials, it was determined that the round was too small. So George Luger just took the existing cartridge and widened it out and made the 9mm. He did this so he did not have to change the tooling for the gun, for all is he had to do was change the barrel.

The Swiss adopted the Luger Before the Germans and the always kept the .30. So in 1902, the Luger went to 9mm for the Imperial German Army around Christmas 1907? I think.

After WW1, Germany was restricted and could only produce the 9mm for the Police, thus the commercial Models were .30. Sales for export were .30 and 9mm. The .30 is still available and it is still a very popular round for it's ballistics. A lot of collectors like it, for it is the original Luger caliber. It is very accurate and it is powerful. The .30 Luger feeds more reliably in Lugers.

The chamber dates on Lugers were basically for Military and or Police guns. Like so to say, "Guns for official use." I am not certain, but I am sure commercial models were not dated, I could be wrong. And .30 caliber Luger ammunition can be as easily found as this forum. Almost every ammunition place on the internet like "Cheaper than Dirt" "The Sportsman guide" and many more all carry .30 Luger.In soft point and FMJ.

In a gunshop you will pay an arm and a leg for it, but it all comes out, you pay 18 a box on the internet and pay 8 bucks shipping. In a gunshop you pay 30 to 50 dollars a box. It is 50 bucks easily for Winchester, why? Who knows. Maybe they are Gold plated.

To me, there are some people that like the .30 Luger, some like the 9mm. I don't have a preference and like the .30 because it is the original Luger round. But I like the 9mm Luger. I like both calibers equally. You can't beat a Post 1970 Mauser Parabellum in .30 Luger with a 6 inch barrel. You will win competitions with that gun, and as it comes, right out of the box.

02-27-2011, 03:40 PM	#2
1969goatman Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't understand the question. The Germans went to 9mm not .30 caliber. The original cartridge for the Luger was 7.65mm (.30 cal) and when they went into competition for the US Army trials, it was determined that the round was too small. So George Luger just took the existing cartridge and widened it out and made the 9mm. He did this so he did not have to change the tooling for the gun, for all is he had to do was change the barrel. The Swiss adopted the Luger Before the Germans and the always kept the .30. So in 1902, the Luger went to 9mm for the Imperial German Army around Christmas 1907? I think. After WW1, Germany was restricted and could only produce the 9mm for the Police, thus the commercial Models were .30. Sales for export were .30 and 9mm. The .30 is still available and it is still a very popular round for it's ballistics. A lot of collectors like it, for it is the original Luger caliber. It is very accurate and it is powerful. The .30 Luger feeds more reliably in Lugers. The chamber dates on Lugers were basically for Military and or Police guns. Like so to say, "Guns for official use." I am not certain, but I am sure commercial models were not dated, I could be wrong. And .30 caliber Luger ammunition can be as easily found as this forum. Almost every ammunition place on the internet like "Cheaper than Dirt" "The Sportsman guide" and many more all carry .30 Luger.In soft point and FMJ. In a gunshop you will pay an arm and a leg for it, but it all comes out, you pay 18 a box on the internet and pay 8 bucks shipping. In a gunshop you pay 30 to 50 dollars a box. It is 50 bucks easily for Winchester, why? Who knows. Maybe they are Gold plated. To me, there are some people that like the .30 Luger, some like the 9mm. I don't have a preference and like the .30 because it is the original Luger round. But I like the 9mm Luger. I like both calibers equally. You can't beat a Post 1970 Mauser Parabellum in .30 Luger with a 6 inch barrel. You will win competitions with that gun, and as it comes, right out of the box.