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Thor · 11-01-2010, 07:21 PM

Black Widow was a marketing name to help make these more desireable (increase the price) usually a Mauser Luger 4" with black plastic grips (fake grips are out there) with the Proper Army type 3 or more frequently a type 4 Army mag that was all black including the bottom piece. They were found on byf toggle codes with "41" or "42" chamber date codes (1941 & 1942). As far as I know only byf/41 or byf/42 were called black widows though the black grips can be found occasionally on eariler Mauser Luger as wood became in short supply. Frank or another more knowledgeable Mauser expert can correct anything I said that was incorrect.

11-01-2010, 07:21 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 971 Times in 277 Posts	Black Widow was a marketing name to help make these more desireable (increase the price) usually a Mauser Luger 4" with black plastic grips (fake grips are out there) with the Proper Army type 3 or more frequently a type 4 Army mag that was all black including the bottom piece. They were found on byf toggle codes with "41" or "42" chamber date codes (1941 & 1942). As far as I know only byf/41 or byf/42 were called black widows though the black grips can be found occasionally on eariler Mauser Luger as wood became in short supply. Frank or another more knowledgeable Mauser expert can correct anything I said that was incorrect. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."