Wait just a minute here. Those trees in the background,,,,,, you live on the Rim. At that elevation you get what you ask for. It's not like your in the valley.
I camped for a week in Febuary, in the valley next to Pheonix at a place call Estrella Mountain park. Let me tell you, it was cold enouph at night to freeze the blue stuff in the portalets.
What FNorm also fails to mention is in the summer; the incredible beauty of living up on the Rim. You just pay for it in the winter. Roads get real scary and shoulders in some places don't exist.
What? No hot tub on your redwood deck?
