[charly239]

Hallo all

this came today across.....same marker on both items....

R.Nagel & Co from Bielefeld and the year 1915

complete with tool and rod,both are imperial marked

now my first questions....are this markings Erfurt marks ( Crown over Letter ) ??

look at the loops and the front from the arty one, i think this is old repaired or changed.

thanks for your opinions

regards t.