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Unread 02-07-2009, 06:32 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
Dear All - I recently received a PM from an anonymous gentleman in North America who wanted to know if he could sell a 1902 Luger carbine to a person in the UK.

Here is my response -

Dear Mr XXXXX - of course you can, but only to a Registered Firearms Dealer [RFD] who is also a Section 7 Dealer [rare].

You MAY sell it to a private individual in Northern Ireland, The Isle of Man, or the Channel Islands, where they are still allowed to own cartridge-firing handguns of all types, but again, it must go through HM Customs into the hands of a the Section 7 RFD to do the actual dealing.

It must also be subject to the usual ordeal of Proofing in the Birmingham Proof House, at your risk, prior to sale anywhere in the UK or the Isle of Man. On request, the Proof House will issue an accompanying certificate of proof rather than actually stamping the weapon all over - something that many feel takes a lot of value from an original arm.

What you may NOT do under any circumstances is to sell it to an individual person in this country who may or may not have an appropriate license - such licenses to own live-firing cartridge-loading weapons like this are VERY rare - in fact, I don't know anybody who has one here on mainland UK, only the one poster on the Lugerforums who lives in the Channel Islands, where they are allowed to have such weapons.

Add to that the duty taxes to be paid on the value of the item, with its 25% or more importation tax - plus the insurance and shipping - all added together and charged at 17.5% of the total, and it might be worth not bothering at all.

Example -

1 x Luger carbine 20,000.00
Shipping 250.00
Insurance 500.00

Assessed import tax 5,000.00 [minimum]

Sub-total 25,750.00

VAT @17.5% 4506.25

Total 30,265.25

Up to you.

If there is any more unwelcome advice I can give you, please don't hesitate to call me.

There is a lesson to be learnt here - IMO it's really not worth the trouble it costs.

tac
I am unsure if this post refers to the '02 carbine I just received from Florida and if I'm the Channel Island resident referred to, however, I'm pleased to advise, I am able to purchase (& hope to continue to do so) firearms.

Indeed, the carbine I purchased was for a lower sum. It took a little longer to come through, however, it didn't need to be UK proofed or incur VAT, only a smaller goods tax of 3.5% applied to the original price. Shipping fees are correct.

As Mr tac states, this outcome would be different if I lived elsewhere.
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